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Old 10-11-2009, 01:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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field report six hours installing accessories

a couple buds and I spent 6 hours wrenching. good bad and ugly.

here is the short version:

longhaul dual seat: hard as H## to get the third screw lined up since it is UNDER the tail. need leave side 2 very loose, then force the seat forward and try not to let the soft naugahyde get cut with the tool which does not fit easily.. recommend a LONG EXTENSION on the allen wrench to protect your seat material.

sissy bar/luggage rack: what is the spacer for? no instructions, no idea unless it is a spanner for jigging. Kit was missing the sissy bar padded backrest....

brake cylinder cover: easy as pie.

mirror broke and is not adjustable any way I can see... the upper part that is apparently a snap-sealed unit.... need to replace.

roadster screen: side brackets needed redrilling to let carriage bolts pass through. Prolly sized right before chroming.. chrome is pretty hard to drill.

roadster screen side bracket upper mounting screw: mis aligned enough so that the skirt on the bolt did not allow to thread.. had to use the removed allen head screw, access WAY dificult for these size 9 hands.. took 20 minutes of swearing and finger mashing.

chrome glueons for caliper covers, speedo hood, and tank bag leather: easy sleazy.

rear sissy bar bag: pretty cheezy velcro attachments look like easy on and off is more important than bullet proofness. could not mount cause the sissy bar padded backrest was missing.

foot-rests front and rear: both sets were missing the attachment hardware from frame to bar.. could not mount. one set had missing clip, and a broken plastic shim..

dresser bars: rears easy sleazy.
front dresser bar: one side bolt really hard to reach, and it galled into the nut, making wrenching way too hard. I am too experienced to ascribe it to cross threading.

windshield mechanism: slick as clintons cigar.

seatback for rider backrest: excellent design, but not a readily detachable on/off. takes four bolts and seat removal...

oil dipstick: looks good, but it is not gonna be touchable on a hot bike..The original one was cheaper than the one on my lawnmower.

Rotation of handlebars to an inch-two inches higher for upright seat posture on my 6 foot long armed frame: easy as pie, but needed to rotate the controls back down for mirrors to work. thats when the mirror broke. flops like a drunk dick.

Final impressions: Think I will return the foot rests for rider, as the pegs already drag enough to make we worry about turning.. will let my pillion decide she wants the passenger foot rest or stay with the simple pegs.

Total weight installed parts was 50 pounds or more. with the windescreen aka buffet-screen, it is a bit more sluggish. but styled out well.

in my opine, the rear sissy and luggage finish the lines to make it a much longer looking bike.

blue for beginners, black for slow. mine is silver for speed and show!!
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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a couple buds and I spent 6 hours wrenching. good bad and ugly.

here is the short version:

longhaul dual seat: hard as H## to get the third screw lined up since it is UNDER the tail. need leave side 2 very loose, then force the seat forward and try not to let the soft naugahyde get cut with the tool which does not fit easily.. recommend a LONG EXTENSION on the allen wrench to protect your seat material.

sissy bar/luggage rack: what is the spacer for? no instructions, no idea unless it is a spanner for jigging. Kit was missing the sissy bar padded backrest....

brake cylinder cover: easy as pie.

mirror broke and is not adjustable any way I can see... the upper part that is apparently a snap-sealed unit.... need to replace.

roadster screen: side brackets needed redrilling to let carriage bolts pass through. Prolly sized right before chroming.. chrome is pretty hard to drill.

roadster screen side bracket upper mounting screw: mis aligned enough so that the skirt on the bolt did not allow to thread.. had to use the removed allen head screw, access WAY dificult for these size 9 hands.. took 20 minutes of swearing and finger mashing.

chrome glueons for caliper covers, speedo hood, and tank bag leather: easy sleazy.

rear sissy bar bag: pretty cheezy velcro attachments look like easy on and off is more important than bullet proofness. could not mount cause the sissy bar padded backrest was missing.

foot-rests front and rear: both sets were missing the attachment hardware from frame to bar.. could not mount. one set had missing clip, and a broken plastic shim..

dresser bars: rears easy sleazy.
front dresser bar: one side bolt really hard to reach, and it galled into the nut, making wrenching way too hard. I am too experienced to ascribe it to cross threading.

windshield mechanism: slick as clintons cigar.

seatback for rider backrest: excellent design, but not a readily detachable on/off. takes four bolts and seat removal...

oil dipstick: looks good, but it is not gonna be touchable on a hot bike..The original one was cheaper than the one on my lawnmower.

Rotation of handlebars to an inch-two inches higher for upright seat posture on my 6 foot long armed frame: easy as pie, but needed to rotate the controls back down for mirrors to work. thats when the mirror broke. flops like a drunk dick.

Final impressions: Think I will return the foot rests for rider, as the pegs already drag enough to make we worry about turning.. will let my pillion decide she wants the passenger foot rest or stay with the simple pegs.

Total weight installed parts was 50 pounds or more. with the windescreen aka buffet-screen, it is a bit more sluggish. but styled out well.

in my opine, the rear sissy and luggage finish the lines to make it a much longer looking bike.

blue for beginners, black for slow. mine is silver for speed and show!!
your dealer is meant to oder the pad separately as you chose the one to match your chosen seat
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is the touring seat bolted down then? That sounds incredibly stupid to me . Am I missing something?
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Did you remove the small metal bracket from the fender before trying to fasten the long haul seat down? All my accessories went on pretty easy, didn't have to drill anything out.
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Old 10-12-2009, 02:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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mounting sequence for rider backrest on the longhaul touring seat back

the touring seat back is bolted to the touring seat. the touring seat is held in place by a front hook and the same three small allen head bolts as the stock rider/and passenger seat.

there are two bolts that hold the square plug in place for the times that the rider back rest is removed.. not bad, but not zackly quick release.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Something isn't sounding right on that touring backrest. Maybe I'm not understanding right. It should be quick release, no screws, just two slides you move and pull up on the backrest, and a key to lock it in. Now to get it to that point was a chore converting the brackets but once done I was impressed. Very stable and secure and easily removed.

It was a good point on the screws for the touring seat. I didn't really have a problem getting the screw in on the back but an extention would help avoid possibly damaging the seat.
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