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10-10-2009, 04:57 AM
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Spark Plugs
So how do you remove them ? as in "winterizing" the bike as per handbook, nothing at all in the Workshop Manual which I find surprising, not even a mention about them when taking of the cylinder head cover thingy..
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10-10-2009, 11:06 AM
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Thats really becoming a drag. I've found a lot of things so far that i look up and nothing in the manual. This happened with my speedy manual too but i was hoping they'd gotten it better on this one. Funny thing is, you start to figure it must be because it's really written for triumph mechanics so you think they just leave out the obvious stuff because these guys should know the simpler things. But then you see things that they put in there that anyone would know because they are so simple. so i don't get it.
anyways, i tried to get to the plugs too and i decided to give up quickly when i saw how hard they were to get to, and the plug covers seemed like they were impossible to budge. So i decided to wait for the manual !!! Looks like that plan is screwed now eh ! may i ask tho, what did you want to do? I wanted to replace them with iridiums but i soon found out that no one makes an iridium for this bike. In fact, i couldn't find a single high end plug for it of any kind.
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10-10-2009, 01:02 PM
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Stoopid
Hi Daz, I agree with your words, seems bloody stupid not to even mention the removal of the plugs, specially as its not even mentioned when you need to remove the shiny engine lid ;-), I was only asking cos I will be laying up the bike next year in spring to visit relatives in the land north of you, and the owners handbook mentions removing a plug on each bore to squirt a drop of engine oil into the cylinders, well ok no problem, but it would have been nice for them to fricken well tell you how to go about whipping them out, one would have thought the bloody workshop manual would at least tell you !!!, theres not even a mention of the ignition cct under electrical ( I think ) I remember your quest for iridiums, ... so looking at the "cap" I would assume it contains the ignition coil as there is a plug thingy on the "top" of theml, just a guess tho, like you I am fearful of touching them, tho a pair of quick grips might do the job.....NOT ;-);-) . I will have to ask at the dealer next week..
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Last edited by kraftdinners; 10-10-2009 at 01:05 PM.
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10-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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Well, i fully expect to find this sort of thing many more times as i did with the speedmaster manual. Just have to do what ya can and hope the manual at least helps with some things. Weird that the coils are on the cam cover like that. This bike really is no treat to work on yourself and for me at least will probably require a lot more dealer intervention than i had hoped for. But if any bike is worth it, this is the one.
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10-10-2009, 02:27 PM
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coils
Hi daz , absolutely, it does not detract from the bike at all..Period!!, its just like a modern car in that respect, there are some things you can do, but the injection / engine mangement is another world entirely..as being a no go area, yes indeed they are the coils we can see, ( page 3.6 para 15 in the W M ) that just says remove them ..I assume there is an "O" ring sealing out the crap and that is what makes it probably daunting to remove them, but I will give it a try, after either checking with the dealer or Triumph U.K, and I will ask triumph why a removal procedure is not mentioned in the handbook let alone the workshop manual. cos I can well imagine the cost of one of those if you bust it getting it out !! as in do you twist it or just pull on it to get it out ?..we have to find these things out I reckon ..as in having a "sticky" as has been mentioned before ..
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10-10-2009, 03:20 PM
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I would not bother removing the plugs for winter storage.
Nothing will happen if you keep the bike in a dry place.
If you would not be using the bike for a very long time I would do it, say like 5 years or so.
I have had an older Porsche which I didn't use anymore. Ended up selling it and when we (the buyer and me) started it up after 2.5 years it turned on immediately, no smoke, no noise, no grinding, nothing. Just perfect. We took it for a test ride and he bought it on the spot. We keep in contact now and after a year of owning the car he couldn't be happier.
I still have a 911 from '97 with 65000km's, that car hasn't been started for over 3 years now. No plugs removed either. Not worried at all.
I think Triumph just say to do this to cover their backs in case a bike is stored for a very long time in very humid conditions.
Last edited by DVR; 10-10-2009 at 03:23 PM.
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