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Old 11-24-2012, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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High Altitude Performance

As the snow starts to blow, I'm making plans for my spring ride. This year, I'm blasting through the flatlands (Ohio, Nebraska, Iowa, etc.) into Wyoming and then down through (not next to ... through) the Colorado Rockies, on to Santa Fe and then heading back east through the Ozarks and home to Rochester, NY.

I'm guessing that with all of the computerized sophistication and FI we have on this bike, there probably won't be much for me to do other than enjoy the ride and the road as I transition from low to high to low again, but I'm just wondering if anyone out there has any tips on this.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No tips, but it suffers a little at altitude even tho it's supposed to compensate. Seems to me like it helps to keep it from lagging like a carb bike, but not 100%. I DO notice a bit of a performance hit. Nothing real bad tho.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No problems with modern bikes. I live at sea level and ride to 9000' with no issues. Sure you'll notice some reduced power; nothing you can do about that. But on the plus side when you do return to the low lands after spending all that time at elevation you'll feel like your bike has suddenly gained 25% more power!


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I took mine to the summit of Mt. Washington this past Labor Day weekend. My bike ran like a champ.. and I didn't notice any issues at all in performance. However, there was a Yamaha V-Star that made it to the summit.. and then his bike stalled and he couldn't get it started again. I don't know if it was the altitude.. or just a mechanical issue with the bike. The owner didn't seem to have any clues either. He said it was running fine til he got to the last quarter mile of the climb.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I made a trip last year and rode in and around Leadville, Kremmling and the Trail Ridge Road through the Rocky Mountain National Park and didn't notice any loss of power. I would say just enjoy your ride, you won't have any altitude issues with the bike.
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We rode from Portland OR to Santa Fe earlier this year, over the Rockies both ways.... We both have '10 thunderbirds and it was interesting. My bike hardly broke a sweat with altitude change, certainly never stalled out or sounded stressed when high (!), but Chris's bike did all of the above. Stalling out was the biggest problem as it happened any time we were idling. Both bikes had a service before we left and both bikes have similar mileage. Apart from that, which really, in retrospect was pretty minor, we had a blast and are planning the same destination, expanding the whole trip by another week so we can actually stop and smell the roses this time.


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We rode from Portland OR to Santa Fe earlier this year, over the Rockies both ways.... We both have '10 thunderbirds and it was interesting. My bike hardly broke a sweat with altitude change, certainly never stalled out or sounded stressed when high (!), but Chris's bike did all of the above. Stalling out was the biggest problem as it happened any time we were idling. Both bikes had a service before we left and both bikes have similar mileage. Apart from that, which really, in retrospect was pretty minor, we had a blast and are planning the same destination, expanding the whole trip by another week so we can actually stop and smell the roses this time.


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Curious ... did you're pals bike continue with the stalling after you reached lower altitudes?

Also, I'm doing three full weeks, spending a couple of days running throughout the Rockies but staying in the same hotel and then spending three days in Santa Fe, hitting Taos, a couple National Parks and some Mesas. The ride out will be boring through the "flat states", but on the return, I'm taking the southern route, hitting the Ozarks and the Smokies. Should be a real kick.
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We rode from Portland OR to Santa Fe earlier this year, over the Rockies both ways.... We both have '10 thunderbirds and it was interesting. My bike hardly broke a sweat with altitude change, certainly never stalled out or sounded stressed when high (!), but Chris's bike did all of the above. Stalling out was the biggest problem as it happened any time we were idling. Both bikes had a service before we left and both bikes have similar mileage. Apart from that, which really, in retrospect was pretty minor, we had a blast and are planning the same destination, expanding the whole trip by another week so we can actually stop and smell the roses this time.


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That is really odd. I've run several of my injected Triumphs from sea level up into the mountains and never had a problem. They were all triples, but any modern engine management system should handle the change, so I can't see how that would matter.

I did have that sort of issue with my carb'd Honda and had to turn the idle up to prevent stalls, but luckily on the old Magna there was a simple knob that let me do it in the fly.

You loose approximately 3% of your HP per 1000' of elevation, so you will certainly notice it when you pull out to make a pass or anything, but this is the first I've heard of a newer bike/car/boat/whatever having any real problems with the change.
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... My bike hardly broke a sweat with altitude change, certainly never stalled out or sounded stressed when high (!), but Chris's bike did all of the above. Stalling out was the biggest problem as it happened any time we were idling. ....
His bike certainly had something amiss, exacerbated by the thin air that made it more obvious. I'd be looking for intake or MAP sensor problems
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We took his bike in for another service as soon as we were back, as there was a completely separate issue with the front tire (never buying another Metzler again.... Avons rock). Now it runs just as nice as mine. We won't know until next summer if the altitude will get it all over again. From Portland we regularly go to about 4,000 feet over Mt Hood without any issue - its at about 8 we started to notice.


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