Triumphrat

cjr0104 · 11-15-2012, 07:31 PM

local dealer has an excellent condition, blue/white stripe 2010 tbird with aux. lights, long tors and k/n filter with a remap. they just did the first big service (12000mi. i think). Last Friday i was there, the sticker price was $10395 and they to take $800 off asa returning loyal customer which sounded good. I ,of course, test drove it and left with a big smile and a finance price sheet. So, today they call me and offer to take another $500 off. with kellybluebook value of $9955 all stock. My question is ... Is this a great deal or just a good deal that they could a little better? Any thought? only have until Saturday to give an answer (when i said i'd respond by).

Daycruiser · 11-15-2012, 07:49 PM

NADA has the value between 10K and 8K. $10K is the max retail so $9K is not a great deal but more of an ok deal. I would see if you can push them closer to $8K, however if they did in fact do the entire 12K service (ask for detailed proof) then a little higher price might be warranted since that is the expensive service, check the tires, Thunderbirds like to snack on tires. If the rest of the bike is pristine than it's your call and your money.

dazco · 11-15-2012, 07:57 PM

Real world value, that is what you're probably going to get for a '10 bird with 12k on it is probably more like $7-8k. I think they're trying to milk you, and the fact they told you $500 more without having to push them pretty much makes that obvious to me. They ARE a dealer and therefore need to sell at least somewhat high to make a good profit. But i wouldn't go more than $8-8.5k out the door if it were me. Resale on them isn't real good like a harley unfortunately. I'd probably start looking used. For what they want u can likely get one with 3-5000 miles on it and a year or 2 newer.

busyelbow · 11-15-2012, 08:03 PM

If they drop $500 without you asking there is more to have. I would get finances ready and go in ready to buy. Decide a price max you want to pay. Just be prepared to walk away if they don't hit it. Service is not cheap but so check tires and brake pad condition. Did not look where you are in the country but if in cold weather then they are not going to sell too many bikes this time of year. Good luck. Do what makes you happy.

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cjr0104 · 11-15-2012, 08:58 PM

Tires were like new and brakes appeared to be good but didn't look too closely. Also,it is an ABS model.
This is the time of year to buy i know and i ride year round, but is waiting til spring a better idea?
With an offer currently at $8995 ($1300 off sticker), it's not easy for me . i hate wheelin and dealin, so what would be the best counter offer in your opinions?

busyelbow · 11-15-2012, 09:02 PM

ABS is a nice addition. Set the price you think it is worth. If you are happy at 8995 the go for it. It is ultimately value to you. I would probably offer low 8's and aim to settle at 8.5k but I am a pain in the ass when negotiating. Just decide what you are happy with. Good luck.

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Lantesh · 11-15-2012, 10:02 PM

I think sometimes buyers worry too much about trying to get something below the average cost. This is more important to me when there is more than one of a given item available at more than one place. Sometimes with used vehicles though I find a certain one that I want, and there isn't another one just like it for sale across the street. In this situation I am more concerned about not getting ripped off, and am happy to pay a fair price. So if it was me it would really come down to how much is my time worth. If I don't buy it am I going have to spend a lot of time trying to find another used one in the same condition for a better deal? I've bought vehicles in the past for a little more than I wanted to spend, and not regretted it.

RC65 · 11-15-2012, 10:24 PM

A 2010 w/ aux. lights, long tors, and having had 12K service at $8995 is a pretty good deal in my mind. You didn't mention if it had a shield or upgraded seat or crash bars or sissybar w/ luggage rack...if it has all those, that's another $1k+ in accessories, beyond the lights and TORs...that'd be an even better deal. If you're after a TBird, you could sure do worse.

joey1970 · 11-16-2012, 03:44 AM

I agree with the others. That price point is a bit high. You could wait out another Triumph promotion.. and get a brand new bird for only a couple thousand more. If you intend on financing the bike.. you'll probably get a better interest rate on a new bike.. so your final "cost to own" would be pretty close to getting a brand new one.

I paid $12,800 for my '12 tbird.. with 0% financing.. and $1100 in accessories. Plus, my dealer added in the first maintenance.

I say.. unless you get this bike in the low $8k range.. you can find a better deal..

dazco · 11-16-2012, 09:47 AM

I see them in cycle trader.com in dealer ads brand new for around $10k. So i still would wait if it were me. 12k miles isn't a lot, but to my mind it is for a deal like that. That said, like some others have said at $9k it's not a horrible deal and if it makes you happy, go for it. It's all about how much the money matters to you. But at thier price i think it should be around for a while so you may want to spend a bit of time now looking online at craigslist, cycle trader.com and any others and get a better idea of the value and maybe even find a killer deal. I would go for the lower to no miles and newer model year over a few accessories. Note that the issues with the belt seem to have been rectified in later models as was the hub/bearing which may or may not have been part of it. But those things and very likely some other minor things we haven't heard about have been addressed in later models. The '10 is the first year model. I love mine, but if i had the choice i'd be aiming for a '12.