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Old 06-07-2010, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Quarter mile and top speed

I just got a new t-bird 1600 with the shorty TOR's and still breaking her in. I was trying to find performance numbers and found one site that claimed a top speed of 115mph on the stock 1600, that seemed kinda slow considering how strong she pulls. Anyone got some real world numbers to share on a stock 1600, 1700 or with mods? Quarter mile and top speed or whatever you got. Thanks.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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115 mph seems pretty realistic to me. I don't *know*, but wouldn't be surprised if there's a speed limiter on the bike. I know Rockets are pretty restricted until you get a tuner (TuneBoy, PC Com., etc...) after them and open up the throttle bodies to 100%.
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You're probably right, it would have to be restricted in some way to not go over 115 with that big twin in there. On a hilarious side note, a friend of mine told me he had his old Honda 700 Shadow up to 142mph, yeah right buddy, those are kilometers!
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It'll pull better than that. I buried the 120 MPH speedo and would have kept going if my helmet and glasses weren't about to get ripped off my head. last i looked it was at 120 which with speedo error was probably 115. I felt i could have gone at least another 10 MPH. By the way, the theoretical top is insane....it's about 180. realistically you probably couldn't pull that without at least 50 more HP, maybe 60 or 70. But the gearing is such that at redline you'd be doing 180. I was only doing like 4000 rpms at 120 MPH indicated. I suspect with the BB kit and pipes/filter it should go 130-135. If not a, bit of air flow like the seat mod with proper tuning and i have no doubt it will get up to or close to 140. Heck, i felt mine wanted to do a real 125 in stock form except for the pipes which make little diff by themselves.

as to the 1/4 mile, no clue. But one thing is for sure....triumph's emissions conscious tuning has this bike horribly choked at higher RPM's just like they did to the speedmaster. The proper airflow and tune will increase acceleration a lot i suspect just as it did when i uncorked my speedmaster. It's high RPM performance literally felt like it doubled. Freeway roll-ons which in stock form were utterly pathetic went from "am i accelerating yet" to holy cr@p". So i have no doubt the Tbird will benefit equally and the 1/4 mile time will go from acceptable at best to impressive for any cruiser. This bike really is limited horribly by triumph's tuning. But thier hands are tied by the emission standards which make good performance harder and harder to archive the bigger the engines go. Bigger engine=more emissions. so to curb that a big engine like this gets crippled horribly and it takes very little to release a lot of power.
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I agree with Daz the bird will peg the speedo. I got into a minor sort of on ramp race with a Z4 last week (it was a very long ramp with metering lights at the top). By the time I conceded the race at the merge point I was doing 120mph in 5th as the Z4 started to pull away.

Not that I normally do this, mind you, but the bird was quicker off the line and did beat the same car at the previous set of lights. It just does not have the top end that the Z4 does.
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Thanks for the responses, 115 just seemed ridiculous as a top speed with all that power, I figured she would peg the speedo easily. Taking my t-bird in for the 600 mile service on Thursday, looking forward to unleashing some of that power afterward on a long ride down hwy 1 to Santa Cruz. Some nice straight stretches down there.
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That's good to know, I reckon. I rarely ever look at the speedo if I'm on the gas because if I am, that means I'm passing someone. Otherwise, I'm generally pretty tame. I have to be. The wimmins have come to expect me to ride slow so they can pant and get hot and bothered when they drive past me and see my perfectly sculpted buttocks straddling the seat and my long, sleek and muscular legs reaching down to the pegs as if to say "Go ahead ladies, take a squeeze", my tanned and ripped arms bursting out of the sleeves and my finely chiseled jaw with boyish dimples and blue eyes as deep as an ocean.
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I had my T-bird dyno-ed and it had a top speed of around 142-145 mph. Of course, that wasn't with rubber on the road, but I think it isn't too far off.
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Now, that would surprise me. I have an 09 Tiger 1050 and a Thunderbird 1600. The only mods to both bikes are pipes and re-map (TOR tune). The Tiger will eat the Thunderbird's lunch everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

I *think* I read on the Tiger forum that the top speed on the Tiger is around 155 mph in the stock configuration. The Tiger dyno'd at around 121 hp after pipe and TOR map, if I remember correctly. And, IIRC, the T-Bird dyno'd at 94 hp after installing the Hog Slayers and TOR map.

The Bird *might* hit 140 mph, but based on my experience with the Tiger (I've had it to 124 mph), I'd have to say it would take the Bird awhile to hit that speed.
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I had my T-bird dyno-ed and it had a top speed of around 142-145 mph. Of course, that wasn't with rubber on the road, but I think it isn't too far off.
Do dynos adjust for wind resistance? At a 140+ the wind is producing a lot of resistance.
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