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Old 01-27-2010, 03:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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TBird - ABS Vs Blue Haze

Hey all. I placed my order for my new t Bird in December 09 . Ordered the limited run Blue Haze with the ABS.

Got a call from the Dealer today saying that triumh are advising them that you can't get the limited run of Blue haze with ABS. The abs is only avaliable on the Standard Colors. I wanted the blue haze as it is a limited run production and will also be good for a lont term investment maeaning there wont be too many out there..

So my question is.. What are the pro and cons of the ABS. Like you cant test it out like a car as you may have the possablilty of falling off while testing and also the handling would it handle different.

So just asking the question. If i get the blue haze i save 1k by takiing the ABS off the order. If i get the ABS and a standard color i save $300 from the blue haze option..

Your thoughts..

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Old 01-27-2010, 04:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know what I'd do.
I would want the limited color.
On the other hand, the ABS might save my life.

I faced a similar decision, when I bought my Harley Road King. The dealer had two choices in stock. A RK Classic with ABS, which I wanted, and wire wheels and leather bags, which I didn't. I bought the standard RK, because I preferred the alloy wheels and hard bags. Now, at times, I wish I had ABS, in case I need it.

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Old 01-27-2010, 04:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah a tough decision, Think i am more heading toward the Blue Haze. But like you said the time that you may need it may save your life..
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hiya Moraus

Got your PM and I've replied; with some extra info about accessories.

I for one have opted for the colour over the ABS, viz. Phantom Red Haze.

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Old 01-27-2010, 07:23 AM   #5 (permalink)
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.... Got a call from the Dealer today saying that triumh are advising them that you can't get the limited run of Blue haze with ABS. The abs is only avaliable on the Standard Colors ...
Sounds like your dealer is either:
- miss informed
or
- trying to pull you over the table!

Here's a picture of the Haze Blue WITH ABS!



Sorry about the large Photo - but you can only see the ABS in the larger pictures!

Here's the source information from this picture

See an attached Phantom Blue from the Milan EICMA Bike show!
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Old 01-27-2010, 07:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for that great photo Birdy,

I got the same message from my dealer about the ABS not being available with the two new colours, but I'm going to go back down there tomorrow and ask them to ring Triumph Australia, again - just to confirm.

The other odd thing is that the photos of the Red Haze T'bird I've seen also show 1700 badges on the left cover, whether it was just a BBK done for the EICMA, I don't know; but I'll check that also.

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ABS and then do you own custom paint job down the road.
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Thats quite amusing . Of course you can get the blue haze with ABS. The dealer is obviously a bit long of blue without abs bikes. hehehe.
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Well, You can get the factory fitted 1700 on one of the custom color bike. One of the fellows on the other forum has ordered one.


As to the original question, I personally don't like the look of the ABS ring and since ABS has more limited use on a bike as for a car I opted not to have it and put the money on the big bore kit instead. I also went for black and wouldn't go for a custom color...I like simple and classic.

However, if we look at this rationally; You can not fit the ABS after the fact. You get it factory fitted or you don't get it at all. The color of the bike however can be relatively easily changed at any time. So if you want ABS but want a unique color, you buy the ABS bike and get it resprayed.

Personally I think the custom colors are going to be just like custom color cars that come out. In short order the color will fall out of favor, will look dated and will actually be a detriment to resale rather than an asset. But that's just me.
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:15 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I would dito Thatch about the fact that ABS cant be fitted after, so it makes it a no brainer to me to choose the ABS over a custom paint, if you had to make the choice that is (that also assumes i would want the custom paint for the sake of the argument).

..personally if its a given that it is beneficial to your safety i dont care that it doesnt look pretty..imo, it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb and people arn't looking at the ABS ring when they look at your bike. along the same line of reasoning that, the duel disks get in the way of looking at the wheel but i would prefer duel disks that work more effectively than one disk that is less effective

funny tho, i am interested why Thatch you say ABS has limited use in comparison to being on a car...my thoughts are the opposite is all..to me i find ABS on a car a PITA, it throws my car forward at times when it just shouldn't (because one wheel hits something slippery e.g a wet white line or man hole cover etc etc..e.g i am slowly coming to a stop at the lights, one wheel hits a wet manhole cover and the whole car is thrown forward (either into the intersection or closer to the car in front of me)until it re-estabished grip, stupid thing would have stopped fine with the other 3 wheels and no ABS) and being used to driving on dirt roads where the car sometimes drifts around a corner or other poor australian roads with soft shoulders i much prefer to be able to have the control over braking myself (though i appreciate that many people may like ABS on a car and it may have extra benefits in snow, which i rarely ever see let alone drive in it)...

but on a bike it seems to me ABS is of far more benefit, it only takes that one slip up, in a panic braking situation and the bike can be lost (and it gets damaged as do you), its in that situation that ABS seems to me infinitely more useful on a bike to me
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