TBird - ABS Vs Blue Haze - Page 3 - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums
» Main Menu

Discussion Forums
 » Twins
 » Tiger
 » General
 » RAT

Features
 » Blogs

Motorcycle.com Links

Contribute
 » Photo

Motorcycle Forums
» Insurance
» Sponsors
» Our Partners
»ATV Reviews
»Motorcycle Games

Thunderbird Cruiser Chat Cruiser chat for the the Thunderbird twin

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-30-2010, 11:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
Banned
SuperSport
Main Motorcycle: '10 Thunderbird
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fayetteville NC
Posts: 1,041
Quote:
Originally Posted by engage View Post
I hear what you are saying and my intent is not to be argumentative,
Oh I know. No ill intent here either. Bikes are all about choices and we all make the ones that are right for us.

Quote:
Their are really only two negatives I can see:
  1. riding on dirt roads (which I doubt many of us do with this bike)
  2. Using ABS as an excuse to not practice braking
3. Your budget won't let you get the ABS AND the BB kit. One has to have priorities


As for dirt roads. I did that once on the bird. I do NOT recommend attempting this, especially if that dirt is sand.

Couldn't agree more on the practice.
Thatch is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-30-2010, 12:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
Senior Member
SuperSport
Main Motorcycle: 2010 Triumph Thunderbird
 
engage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 1,057
Other Motorcycle: 2004 Bonneville Black
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatch View Post
Oh I know. No ill intent here either. Bikes are all about choices and we all make the ones that are right for us.
I'm with you on that brother, but I still don't know why you don't have a fancy seat merkin. That's not a choice, it's a necessity

Quote:
3. Your budget won't let you get the ABS AND the BB kit. One has to have priorities
It's going to be awhile before I consider a BB. I don't have your height, but I go 230 (solid muscle of course), so even with the 1600, when I let her rip, the bike goes, but my fat ass what's to stay put

My daughter tells me there is ice and a bit of snow in your area today.
engage is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-30-2010, 01:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
Banned
SuperSport
Main Motorcycle: '10 Thunderbird
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Fayetteville NC
Posts: 1,041
Yeah we're snow.... er iced in at the moment. Not that bad but I refuse to get on the road with a bunch of southerners on the ice. That's just asking for trouble. We start warming up again next week (fingers crossed)

Yeah I know what you mean on size. I'm about 250lb and I'm quite sure some of the wee ones around here have a slightly different experience on the bike than I do. I did save 20 some odd pounds with the BC pipes but I just took that as that I could go for seconds now. The kit however has made caused me to seemingly loose quite a bit of weight.
Thatch is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-31-2010, 07:35 PM   #24 (permalink)
New Member
Production 125
Main Motorcycle: MY T/Bird
 
moraus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne, Aust
Posts: 10
Other Motorcycle: I wish
Extra Motorcycle: If Only
Hey all, Thanks for your comments. I rang Triumph Australia today and they said that is correct you Can not get the ABS on the limited run Tbirds. I asked why and it was a factory decission..

May have to give them a call when they wake up..

James
moraus is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-03-2010, 09:05 PM   #25 (permalink)
New Member
Production 125
Main Motorcycle: MY T/Bird
 
moraus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne, Aust
Posts: 10
Other Motorcycle: I wish
Extra Motorcycle: If Only
Hey all, Well good news. My dealer called today and advised the the Haze Tbirds are avaliable with ABS. I had att he start of the week Emailed triumph UK and advised them of the issue and in a suprise they emailed back that they will look into it. So issue all sorted out.

Thank all and look forward to my new Tbird in a fe months

James
moraus is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-04-2010, 08:29 AM   #26 (permalink)
New Member
Production 125
Main Motorcycle: 2009 Bonneville
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Rotorua New Zealand
Posts: 6
Other Motorcycle: 72 Bonnie
Extra Motorcycle: 850 Commando
Well done.
Now you get both a greatlooking bike and from all the comments a safer bike.
Rossco is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-03-2012, 08:56 PM   #27 (permalink)
Member
Grand Prix 250
Main Motorcycle: '10 Thunderbird 1700 ABS
 
Dicky6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 43
Other Motorcycle: 2013 Honda CB1100
Extra Motorcycle: 1982 Honda GL500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ch!ppy View Post
I would dito Thatch about the fact that ABS cant be fitted after, so it makes it a no brainer to me to choose the ABS over a custom paint, if you had to make the choice that is (that also assumes i would want the custom paint for the sake of the argument).

..personally if its a given that it is beneficial to your safety i dont care that it doesnt look pretty..imo, it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb and people arn't looking at the ABS ring when they look at your bike. along the same line of reasoning that, the duel disks get in the way of looking at the wheel but i would prefer duel disks that work more effectively than one disk that is less effective

funny tho, i am interested why Thatch you say ABS has limited use in comparison to being on a car...my thoughts are the opposite is all..to me i find ABS on a car a PITA, it throws my car forward at times when it just shouldn't (because one wheel hits something slippery e.g a wet white line or man hole cover etc etc..e.g i am slowly coming to a stop at the lights, one wheel hits a wet manhole cover and the whole car is thrown forward (either into the intersection or closer to the car in front of me)until it re-estabished grip, stupid thing would have stopped fine with the other 3 wheels and no ABS) and being used to driving on dirt roads where the car sometimes drifts around a corner or other poor australian roads with soft shoulders i much prefer to be able to have the control over braking myself (though i appreciate that many people may like ABS on a car and it may have extra benefits in snow, which i rarely ever see let alone drive in it)...

but on a bike it seems to me ABS is of far more benefit, it only takes that one slip up, in a panic braking situation and the bike can be lost (and it gets damaged as do you), its in that situation that ABS seems to me infinitely more useful on a bike to me
This past Friday I traded my 2010 1600 Blue Haze (10,000 mi.) for a brand new 2010 1700 ABS in "Jet Black." They gave me more than I owed for the trade and Triumph is giving $1,500 in accessories right now. I feel the ABS is worthwhile and I definitely can appreciate the extra 100 cc's. One little disappointment is that the new bike does not come with steel braided brake lines--***? I am fine with the Jet Black, but I can always go with an aftermarket painting down the road.

Regards!
Dicky
Dicky6 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 07:26 AM   #28 (permalink)
Member
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: 2012 Triumph Storm
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Colombia
Posts: 36
Other Motorcycle: 2012 Kymco 500
I had a car come out of nowhere from my right a couple of months ago. I remembered to slow down as much as possible before hitting the car and probably shoot over it. I slammed both brakes. When I "hit" it, I fell on the ground. This is the feedback from two buddies riding behind me: Unbelievably, the bike stopped in a straight line and you didn't hit it; the back edge of the car pushed your front wheel to the left and you fell over. I'm telling anybody who wants to save some $$$ and not get ABS: DON'T!!! It may not have saved my life but I can certainly tell you that based on my braking experience with prior motorcycles without the ABS, I'm sure that I would have slammed into the car.
colombianstorm is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #29 (permalink)
Member
Grand Prix 250
Main Motorcycle: 10 tbird
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Commerce, Georgia
Posts: 65
Not a whole lot of years ago the only bikes with ABS was BMW. I was just looking one day cause I couldn't afford either one so I told the sales guy half the truth and said I wouldn't by a bike with ABS. He told me he was riding in wet weather when a car stopped in front of him, he didn't have room to stop, and was able to steer around while on the breaks. Also , just think of it as a one time payment for an insurance policy and if you avoid one accident it's paid for itself.
I would wager that most people that don't like ABS hasn't ridden it. No matter how good you are, one day your going to have a car, or a deer, or a kid on a bike pull out in front of you. The day that kid made me almost crap my pants I was especially glad that I had excellent brakes. I think he was too.
b1rdman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2012, 01:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
Banned
Commentator
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: L.A., Ca.
Posts: 9,613
Nothing against ABS, and i would never tell anyone they aren't worth it. But having started in '69 on a honda 160 and had my share of stupid mishaps as a kid and young adult, I have a extreme awareness of what causes bike accidents and here is what i think about ABS. the vast majority of situations where ABS would save you are situations that you could have avoided if you ride with EXTREME caution and awareness of what can happen ahead of you. ABS will mot help you is someone sideswipes you on the freeway, if someone comes into your lane head on, if someone rear ends you, etc etc. It only helps if someone in front of you appears. And thats pretty much ALWAYS avoidable if you are always ready for it and do a few simple tactics. As an example, when i approach a car waiting to pull out of a side street, driveway, or waiting to turn left in the oncoming lane, i slow down to a degree that if they DO pull in front of me i can stop. This involves slowing quite a bit AND being aware of the car in back of you. I never once have seen anyone else do that, but i do because it is almost if not 100% effective in avoiding those situations where ABS would be needed.

My point is that ABS situations, which are all cars pulling in front of you, are avoidable via extreme awareness and complete and constant vigilance as you ride. The only flaw in that, which will lessen it's effect to below the safety factor of ABS, is if you DON'T stay aware. It DOES take time to get good at it and always remeber to do so. On the other hand it has the advantage over ABS of being almost foolproof which ABS isn't. It's only good assuming you are within a workable distance of the jackass who pulls in front of you. Awareness puts you in a place where ABS or not you can stop. But again, you have to be aware ALL THE TIME. Took me a while to develop the ability to be always aware. fear was a big help ! But i can recall at least 2 or 3 times just since i have had the Tbird that slowing way down when a car that could pull out in front of me did, and it allowed me to stop no problem when i doubt even ABS would have. I truly believe most riders are not aware enough just from observation. Many if not most ARE aware, just not to a fanatical degree, and thats what it takes.
dazco is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter your valid email address, that can receive an automated confirmation message. Otherwise, you won't be able to gain full access.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Axio tail pack - Electric blue / Neon Blue... just Blue Installed. Tattoed Red Head Sprint Forum 7 06-23-2009 01:16 AM
Swap parts from 98 Tbird to 02 Tbird Hinckley Classic Triples 5 06-11-2009 10:10 AM
Feelin Blue, missing my blue Sprint. Gavs Sprint Forum 13 05-03-2006 09:34 AM
tbird sport carb rubbers for tbird & legend Spooner Hinckley Classic Triples 14 08-11-2005 01:45 AM
can a newer tbird 6 speed be put on a 98 tbird? 00wabbit Hinckley Classic Triples 17 03-30-2005 09:18 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:32 AM.



Motorcycle News, Videos and Reviews
Honda Grom Forum Harley Davidson Forum Honda 600RR Kawasaki Forum Yamaha R6 Forum Yamaha FZ-09 Forum
1199 Panigale Forum Roadglide Forum Honda CBR1000 Forum Vulcan Forum Yamaha R1 Forum Yamaha R3 Forum
Ducati Monster Forum Harley Forums Honda CBR250R Forum ZX10R Forum Star Raider Forum Yamaha Viking Forum
Suzuki GSXR Forum V-Rod Forums Honda Shadow Forum Kawasaki Motorcycle Forum Star Warrior Forum KTM Duke 390 Forum
SV650 Forum BMW S1000RR Forum Honda Fury Forum Kawasaki Versys Forum Drag Racing Forum Ducati 899 Panigale Forum
Suzuki V-Strom BMW K1600 Triumph Forum Victory Forums Sportbikes BMW NineT Forum
Volusia Forum BMW F800 Forum Triumph 675 Forum MV Agusta Forum HD Street Forum Suzuki GW250 Forum
Yamaha Motorcycles Victory Gunner Forum Honda Vultus Forum HD LiveWire Forum

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0