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Old 10-18-2009, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just an update, i have today tried my Tuneboy cable from my Speedmaser on the T-Bird and it seemed to work fine,although i could not try the tunes due to not having a licence for this bike i had full diagnostic info in tuneboy its self including sensor data and tests, in Tune Edit it was able to identify the the ECU and tune but wanted my licence code,

it picked up ECU Serial number = 014*****98, ECU Type = 0634441930, Tune = 020303

i am going to email Wayne today and see if i can get a code.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It may not work right tho. And they themselves say the current ones won't work. The power commander people told me theres some difference between the Tbird and the other triumphs. Something about the crank position sensor i believe, but i didn't quite understand what it was. they said they had to find a way around this problem. So while the tuneboy may seem fine, if you loaded a tune it might not run because it's reading the sensor wrong or some such thing.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The diferance with tuneboy is it uses the triumph
maps, the maps they have are derived from triumph origonalls,it basically acts identically to triumphs own tool, when they want maps like the TOR MAP they have to download them from bike with that map on it. If I can get my code I can download the map currently loaded on the bike and have a look how it's fueled, the only thing tuneboy may need to do is ajustment the sw to show 2 maps per cylinder rather than the one but this should not be anything to problematic to sort out

PC biggest problem is it's an addon rather than a direct map

all tuneboy cable does is read and write code to the ecu, then the software interperates that code in a way we can understand and allows us to modify it's values.

We have progress atleast as PC don't seem to be going anywhere soon

Hopefully we will have some answers soon
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think I'll have a look at the TuneEdit executible to see if i can learn how the software validates an approved license code... purely as an educational exercise, mind you..... now, grabbing my IDA Pro, Ollydbg, and favorite hex editor...

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Okay, it looks like the license keys sent by tuneboy are stored in a registry key. TuneEdit checks these registry keys for a vaild license key. It looks like there are only about a dozen sub-functions that touch the registry key where the valid licenses are stored. It's now a matter of finding which of those dozen functions loads those values into memory and does a compare (for validation).... stay tuned, so to speak.

something like this:



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Old 10-18-2009, 07:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I just spoke to Wayne who is currently in what we call Mexico (Melbourne in Victoria).

He is going to give me a call later on during the week - probably Friday.

I will keep you guys posted when I get more info!


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