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11-03-2008, 05:18 AM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: Rocket Touring
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 65 Other Motorcycle: Vulcan 2000
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Words of Wisdom ?
Hi Guys,
The accessories for the Touring have arrived. Triumph TORS for a little more tone(Tuneboy starter kit in transit), and Progressive shocks for a little more weight !!!!
I'm not the world's greatest wrench, but I installed Roadhouse slipons, Thunder air, PCIII and Progressive shock in the Vulcan without any issues, so I was going to install these myself unless there are any real "gotchas" with Tuneboy or the shocks.
Any advice gratefully accepted re the best Tuneboy download, spring installation etc. Is there any need for air intake changes (I'm not chasing significant power increases).
Regards, Pete
Sydney, OZ
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11-03-2008, 07:41 PM
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Formula Extreme Favourite Bike: Rocket III
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Location: Converse, LA
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Cool additions and you should do fine based on my reading of others that have done the PCIII route. The Progressives will make a big difference in ride quality. Either with a buddy holding the bike or with a board spanning the motor lift just enough to raise the rear wheel and tie the handlebars to a stable support, five minutes max. It took me a minute or two to figure out where the shock adjustment started because the threads weren't visible out of the box. Just keep turning the adjustment until you can count the threads. I understand the TORs will work with the stock tune just fine.
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11-03-2008, 07:59 PM
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The Tune Boy is not really necessary unless you remove the cat. and even then not required if you upload a new tune from Triumph. I have TORS on my Rocket III with no other modifications and it runs great. They've been on mine over 5,000 miles.
My dealer charges $50.00 to load a new tune.
I don't know if that's a common amount to charge.
Seems a little steep to me when I bought the bike there...
By the way, I have Progressive 440"s.
Best modification I've made!
Last edited by Xchoppers : 11-03-2008 at 08:02 PM.
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11-04-2008, 04:54 AM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: Rocket Touring
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 65 Other Motorcycle: Vulcan 2000
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Thanks very much guys,
I've got a bike lift that I can use to lift the back wheel TallRocket, so thanks for the tips. I assume you just place it as far to the rear of the motor as possible ? Interestingly, Progressive state that the shocks must be mounted with the spring adjuster "up" to allow the Inertia Active System to operate and not damage the shocks. I remember there was some discussion on "which way up" here, a few weeks ago,
Interestingly also, Triumph state on their UK accessories site that the TORs require a specific tune download, "available from your local dealer". Bit of money for jam for them I guess. Based on this I ordered Tuneboy, as I thought it would give me more options...... aaaaaaargh !
Thanks again,
Pete
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11-04-2008, 08:09 AM
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For the most part, our dealer charges list but the tune load and all things associated with it are included. Not a bad idea to check the sync at the same time which can be done with the Triumph tool.
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11-08-2008, 01:43 AM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: Rocket Touring
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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While I'm out of action after the knee op, I thought I'd do some pre work while I'm off my feet, especially as there is no workshop manual for the Touring as yet.
Where exactly is the ECU on the Touring ? No laughing please 
Regards, Pete
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Regards, Pete
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11-08-2008, 07:40 AM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: Rocket III
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Pete, Here are some tips. Before you install the TORS, iLook at the ends that connect to the exhaust system. You will find a steel mesh gasket inserted into each end. When installing the TORS, be real careful when inserting them into the pipes. You do not want the edge of the pipe to nick the gasket folding a small layer of the gasket over on itself. This makes the ID a bit tighter and therefore more difficult to fit the pipes.
You did not mention anything about the cat converter. If you are not changing the cat, you may not notice much difference in sound with TORS installed. If you put on a cat bypass, you will be allowing a much more free flowing exhaust. The pipes will also be significantly louder. The downside is you will get a popping on deceleration even when using the appropriate tune. There are non-Triumph tunes out there that will sove this problem but you will need to make other changes as well. You may need your tuneboy.
I had the TORS installed with a cat bypass and installed the appropriate tune with my tuneboy. I found 3 things. My bike popped when decelerating (as mentioned earlier), sounded like a John Deere, and on long trips, it was annoying. I replaced the TORs with the stock pipes. I left the cat bypass installed. It is slightly noisier then stock but still relatively quiet. I still get the decel pops but there are not as frequent and much quieter, I barely notice them.
Anyway, I hope this helps.
Bob
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11-08-2008, 03:12 PM
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Super Sidecars Favourite Bike: Rocket Touring
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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Thanks very much Bob....much appreciated. Yep...been there, done that with the slip-ons gasket on the Vulcan 2000. Exactly as you said, I managed to nick it.....what a bugger to install. I'll be watching carefully this time !
I don't plan on doing the cat bypass. I just want a little better tone from the Touring, so leaving the cat sounds like the perfect option.
I also experienced the same symptoms you have described after the cat bypass when I installed Roadhouse slip-ons with a Thunder air kit and PCIII on the Vulcan. It was too loud for long trips (yep...I'm too old), and I couldn't get rid of the loud burble on decel even with assistance from PCIII themselves. It annoyed the heck out of me when engine braking.
Thanks again, Pete.
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Regards, Pete
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11-08-2008, 04:24 PM
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I installed TORs and left the cat in place on my Rocket III standard.
Just the right sound for me. Quite a bit louder than stock but far from obnoxious or irritating.
I think you'll like it.
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11-08-2008, 05:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Warren
...especially as there is no workshop manual for the Touring as yet.
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Actualoly, there is. The current version of the Rocket III factory shop manual includes the Touring model.
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