Tired of the crying!

[trumpete]

Surely by now, most of us have owned at least one vehicle( car or bike) that has been a **** box. I have owned several...I have also had some brilliant machines. Dealers? Its about the same,(some suck others dont). Owning many different bikes, i have been a member of many web sites and owner groups. I see the exact same thing on all these web sites! Theres always a few unhappy campers that make a big snivel on the web....I understand your frustration. I have been checking out this site for a good while now, and if you read all 127 pages of posts as i have. You will realize theres NOT that many major problems with the rocket. As a trend, you get anyone with a problem posting on these sites,and most happy customers are unheard from! ....... Yes we all like to defend our purchase,BUT LETS GET REAL ,CRY BABYS !Out of the thousands of rockets on the road today,a very small% have major problems ....Lets try and keep things in perspective on this site..........P.S ( tissues available on request).........pete

[dougl]

Originally Posted by trumpete

if you read all 127 pages of posts as i have....

You would be insane.

[Rocket Mad]

Good point. I’ll just take the $30K or so that I’ve invested in my dusty, broken down Rocket and go quietly into the night. NOT!!!

If my bad experience bothers you, don’t read my posts. No crying here trumpete, just the facts (for prospective buyers and captains whose egos aren’t tied to their ride.

[Ugarte]

Well said Trumpete! Just going by net gripes the Rocket isn't any more a problem bike than any other out there. I bought an 08 KLR 650 last summer......you oughta see the web complaints about that bike, the Rocket is bulletproof by comparison.

[busajack]

Originally Posted by trumpete

Surely by now, most of us have owned at least one vehicle( car or bike) that has been a sh*t box. I have owned several...I have also had some brilliant machines. Dealers? Its about the same,(some suck others dont). Owning many different bikes, i have been a member of many web sites and owner groups. I see the exact same thing on all these web sites! Theres always a few unhappy campers that make a big snivel on the web....I understand your frustration. I have been checking out this site for a good while now, and if you read all 127 pages of posts as i have. You will realize theres NOT that many major problems with the rocket. As a trend, you get anyone with a problem posting on these sites,and most happy customers are unheard from! ....... Yes we all like to defend our purchase,BUT LETS GET REAL ,CRY BABYS !Out of the thousands of rockets on the road today,a very small% have major problems ....Lets try and keep things in perspective on this site..........P.S ( tissues available on request).........pete

Ya know Trumpete,if Hardleys had as many problems as Rockets it would be national news with the numbers they sell. Of course you hear things about other bikes on the net because theres so many of them. Percentage wise the the unsolved Rocket problems are high. I love my rocket not one problem,but I have never seen a business large or small that runs like Triumph. And you have two of the most screwed up dealers in the state of Co. Lots of luck.Please post when yours comes appart to see your attitude then. --Jack. Oh your gona need more than tissues get your wallet out.

[dazco]

Yes we all like to defend our purchase,BUT LETS GET REAL ,CRY BABYS !Out of the thousands of rockets on the road today,a very small% have major problems ....Lets try and keep things in perspective on this site

Neither you or i really have any idea of the percentage. But what can be determined is whether there are more issues than with the average bike. In other words, RELATIVE amount of issues. I respect people like Busajack because he owns one and even tho he has no issues he sees the truth and speaks it while others with no issues just figure that since they don't have any, the rocket is fine. There are no cry babys here, only those who have see there are issues beyond the norm or are investigating to see whats up before they buy, and that is the wise thing to do. it's also wise to be honest regardless of any pride you have for your bike. I can say w/o reservation that i have seen a lot more issues posted about here and elsewhere than the twins by a HUGE margin. The rocket is a sweet ride, but when you defend it regardless of the reality of this issue, you enable manufacturers to get away with things like this. Only the consumer can stop it by speaking the truth like Busajack. And like he suggests in his post, the percentage of posts you see with issues means nothing unless you are tying that percentage to the number of owners. If you only see 3 people online with issues that would seem like absolutely nothing. But it would be huge if there were only 10 rockets sold. I have read of dozens and dozens of owners with serious problems like Rocket mad's, yet there are probably 50 times the people in the forums that have twins and in my 2-3 years of reading of them i have literally seen 1 or 2 that i can recall with any serious problems. Literally ! And there are probably 50-100 twins for every one rocket in the L.A. area where i live, and i would assume it's the same everywhere.

But this whole thing started because of another thread where someone who's looking at R3's want to know the score, and you are not helping by telling him things that make them sound bulletproof. No one here is trying to bash your ride or being cry babys. They are simply stating the truth to someone who asked. Why you can't see it i don't know. But the fact is that while the chances of buying a r3 and getting unlucky may be small, it's relatively high compared to other triumphs. And thats all he wanted to know. It's a sad day when you cannot ask questions and get the truth because someone lets their pride of their machine get in the way.

[Ugarte]

Originally Posted by dazco

while others with no issues just figure that since they don't have any, the rocket is fine. There are no cry babys here, only those who have see there are issues beyond the norm .

No one has said that, since they don't have any issues, the Rocket is just fine.....not one. They have said there is no conclusive evidence that the Rocket has more issues than other bikes. For those who have determined that the Rocket has issues beyond the norm.......well what is the norm? How do you determine the norm? Its all just an impression one gets by looking at the complaints on the websites. No formal study has been made, no one (that I know of) has collected data (other than net polls) and made a valid statistical analysis that 1: establishes the norm and 2: shows that the Rocket is beyond this norm.

I would advise anyone who has the impression from the websites that the Rocket has an above normal likelyhood of mechanical failure NOT to buy one. You won't enjoy it. Stay away and get some other bike that you are more comfortable with.

I love mine and would buy another in a heartbeat despite all the hand wringing on the web. But maybe I am just one of those happy, contented, but apparently stupid, Rocketeers that thinks the Rocket is the best dang motorcycle in the world.

[TallRocket]

Agree with the theme - very tired of people just looking for fault.

[dazco]

No one has said that, since they don't have any issues, the Rocket is just fine.....not one.

My mistake. Not in what i meant, but in my syntax. I didn't mean to say that anyone thinks there are zero problems with it, but then i think that should go w/o saying since there is not a mechanical device ever created by man that doesn't. What i meant to say is that there are many here who refuse to see it goes beyond normal. I'll tell you again why i say that. What i see as proof anyways. If you can dispute it go ahead, but i'm simply going to state facts.

There are about as i said before, probably 50-100 of the twins on the road then rockets. My reasoning for those numbers is that i have literally only seen maybe 5-10 rockets on the streets here in one of the largest cities in the US. I have seen hundreds of bonnies and a few of the twin cruisers. So for the sake of argument lets say there are 50 twins for every rocket, tho i'm sure it's gotta be a good bit more than that. Then assuming they have a similar percentage of issues for their numbers, we should see 50 serious issues in the twins community for every 1 serious issue in the R3 community. But heres what i have seen. In the R3 community i have seen the exact opposite and then some. I have seen dozens of serious issues and as i said before literally about 1 or 2 in the twins community. And i only had to scan the R3 community to find dozens, yet i have read the twins forums here and elsewhere for almost 3 years daily !

Now, if you can dispute that go ahead. But i can see no logic that could. And please, none of that "the online community doesn't represent the overall ownership" type of argument. It's senseless. The word "relative" is all that needs to be said. In short, the numbers show that either the twins are the most reliable mechanical device ever designed by man, or the rocket has an inordinate amount of issues. why you can't understand that i don't know, but as you can see i'm not the only one who has figured it out.

[dazco]

Originally Posted by TallRocket

Agree with the theme - very tired of people just looking for fault.

yes, i can fully understand why someone contemplating a particular model WOULD NOT WANT TO LOOK FOR FAULT ! Peronally i'd just jump right in w/o even asking. Sheesh !