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Old 06-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, I wonder if one of you guys could help, my rocket is due for the 10k service, its got all triumph stuff on including tors and cat bypass piework, its running the 20056 tune and the main fault apart from the occasional backfires is the snatchiness at low revs/speeds. Now according to the book during the service they balance the throttle bodies, do you think this might improve this ?Also at the time the tune I think was correct but now people are preferring some tunes over others, could someone advise on the one to go for (planing to get a tuneboy in time ).
All help would be greatfully appreciated as we are off to a rally in Italy in a couple of weeks on it .
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just to add with what I put before this is the list of tunes I think are available to use,
20050 tune= full power with catalyst in box ( Calif ) stock muffler
20055 tune = full power without catalyst in box ( stock muffler )
20051 French= verision
20052 = German version
20053 = after market muffler( or TOR silencer) with catalyst in box (Calif)
20056=aftermarket muffler( or TOR silencer ) without catalyst in box
20054= aftermarket muffler(or TOR silencer ) with cat box removed ( bypass pipe )


which should I go for ?
smoothness and umph are required to navigate the alps I think.
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How about getting your dealer to set it up for 20054 when you have the service - try it out for 20 miles and keep that setting if it's better.

Let the Trumpet mechanic know what your up to and agree if it's no good you come back and he changes it at no extra charge - after all, it's only plugged into a handheld & push a couple of buttons.

If he's a good guy there should be no extra cost...?
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yeah, thats what I was thinking,Tried cables myself but I`ve listened to a few who have noticed a difference after the throttle bodies were balanced. To be honest the PDI and first service were worthless and I ended up doing most of the work again myself so I`m trying a different place this time, it might just make the difference.


After reading about waynes exploits I was wondering on the best compromise tune
I know the tune is the one for when the cat is removed but still using the same collector but when i used the correct tune it backfire far more than with this tune and basically ran like a bag of ****e. The reference for the tunes i have is as follows

To add to this, I`m a fully qualified automotive technician, been in the trade for 25 years and worked with and around bikes for as long including working at the TT for several years for teams running solo`s and F2 sidecars.
I know the bike fueling is a problem exacerbated by the size of the pistons and lack of revs in the situation I`m explaining, but I`m a perfectionist and will endeavour to get it right. Maybe the tuneboy is the answer... but as it has got to be serviced to keep the warrenty up, I`m hoping for a compromise before my trip.
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Likewise Desmo, I've just had my 20k service last Saturday in readiness for 2 weeks across Alps & Pyrenees + next month.

Mechanic changed the map to after market and decat which stopped the popping [which I did like] and seems quieter now, but beyond that I'd say you have a much better understanding of all the whirly gigs than I do.

Thinks I might get back to basics and buy a Royal Enfield :-)

Hope you find the right tune & have a safe trip.
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