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Old 04-07-2006   #1 (permalink)
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What is the difference between motorcycle engine oil and auto engine oil? Can you use regular auto synthetic oil?
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I belive that "most" auto engine oil has antifriction additives that mess with the clutches ability to perform like its should, some auto oils don't have additives, Motorcycle oils definitly don't.

there is a logo on the side of a engine oil bottle that tells if it has it or not. ( going from memory here so can't recall what it is)

I know that you can buy Non triumph fully synthetic oils that are ok for MC use, but the additive issue is important, I'm sure someone here will chime in with the details I can't recal right now.
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Have a look on this Delroc :

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my dealer thinks his syn oil is better than wally-worlds mob-1 of course is cost 1000% more well shame on him,, been running 15-50 syn mob-1 in my r-3 for over a year and it still runs! mk
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I use normal Motul mineral oil which a lot of bike shops use in Australia for normal everyday non high-performance motorcycles. Prior to this I used ordinary garden variety Valvoline 20/50 for years in our rental bikes without any problems. This is an oil you can use in your car or in your bike. Some would argue that you must use this oil or that oil in a motorcycle because of the wet clutch this or the wet clutch that. Well in my experience there's that much BS floating around about all manner of stuff to do with motorcycles it's not funny! The bottom line is you could probably use dish washing liquid in your motor and it would still last as long as most folk would normally keep their bikes :-D

Of course I jest, but my point is that if you use the supermarket brands, this will in no way be a recipe for massive mechanical failure the following week! Perhaps in two weeks.... ? Probably not!

On the matter of oil change frequency, Triumph recomend 16,000km (10,000 miles). In my view this is too long as oil can break down and loose it's ability to lubricate. Looks like goopy black gunk as well at this age! Best to change the oil every 10,000km (6000 miles) which makes it easy to remember for us metric-philes. Just my stinky opinion, take it or leave it. Davo
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You can use any oil that doesn't say "Energy Conserving" on the back, usually in the round logo circle?
A lot of car oils don't have the "Energy Conserving" Anti- friction additives in them!
I used "mobile 1" in all my bikes for 35 years with great results but I think I'm going to swith to "Synthetic Rotella" 5W40 from Walmart,after talking to hundreds of guys that are running it!
there's many Deisel trucks and pickups here with over 1 million miles that use it , so it works!
But there's lots of great oils out there "Motul". "Royal Purple", "Ams Oil" etc !
I've been using "Mobile 1 SUV" oil but heard they don't offer it any more ?
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Considering the investment we have in our machines, how much do you really save by not following the engineered recommended lubricants. These rides are not the run of the mill bikes, they are high performance machines that require specifically engineered maintenance routines and products to ensure they perform as per design. Tampering with this in any way places the accountability on the outcome directly in your lap! :???:
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I use amsoil. Amsoil has a CHART of how much better it is than the other oils. The other oils don't even have charts. Case closed
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my dealer thinks his syn oil is better than wally-worlds mob-1 of course is cost 1000% more well shame on him,, been running 15-50 syn mob-1 in my r-3 for over a year and it still runs! mk
Lots of Hinckley riders ran M1 redcap for years w/no problem because it definitely does not contain the terrible, terrible friction modifiers. But it's no longer produced.

If you believe Mobil's own website the new oil that replaced it does, or at least they suggest that. I'll let somebody else be the guinea pig. There's always Amsoil you want a cheaper, better, worry-free substitute for that exhorbitant stuff at the Triumph dealer. But it's gone up some lately. I guess it all has.
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I have a question after reading the oil issue. How much does the triumph oil cost? My Victory oil & filter runs almost $50.00. Test drove the R3 recently so thats why I'm exploring your site. Thanks.
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