Short Guy Likes the Rockett-------

[coneye]

I'm not saying you cannot get more out of the t bird . But here in OZ you can buy a new t bird 20 grand ride away , and you can buy a new roadster 20 grand ride away ,, So its obvious if your into the power , buy the rocket , if you want to spend thousands increasing the power , spend it on the rocket and get more .

Personally i think even the standard t bird is fast enough , i would take mine out with mates who were on rockets , and when they let go i would follow and only be a couple of seconds behind and well over the speed limit ,

I only sold mine because for the long haul stuff , 2 up we find the rocket tourer much more comfortable , and i love that overtaking power , 2 semis , 5 th gear fully loaded twist that throttle and wow , 110 to 140 and still pulling hard and your past that semi and back to safety in seconds , then its back to the speed limit .

Overall , other than that the t bird compares very well , In the hills the bonnie i replaced the t bird with is geared very well and sticks right up the arse of my mates on rockets , no chance on the long flat roads but in the hills a blast , nice and light and fun to ride .

But if it was only one bike you want , the t bird is the go , does everything very well

[steve59]

Originally Posted by triplestrength

You can tune anything to produce more power.
So you spend x amount on a Tbird to get more power, then you spend the same on a R3 guess what you get more power.
The Tbird was/is a derivative of the R3 two cylinders instead of 3.
Put the cranks side by side, guess what? Very similar but the Tbird's is shorter.
For the difference in cost and weight I don't get the point of the Tbird, its a nice bike but why settle for less?

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I saw the Triumph brochure and the $200.00 price difference between the roadster and the storm and scratched my head. The roadster's the obvious choice on paper, but after a test ride I bought the storm. I can spend more money to get more power but, I can't spend more to make the roadster smaller or handle as well.

[dazco]

Originally Posted by steve59

I saw the Triumph brochure and the $200.00 price difference between the roadster and the storm and scratched my head. The roadster's the obvious choice on paper, but after a test ride I bought the storm. I can spend more money to get more power but, I can't spend more to make the roadster smaller or handle as well.

Which is what my point is....they are 2 very different bikes, and power aside if you like one a lot more than the other, get it. And if it happens to be the slower one, mod it. Then you have your dream bike. I could have bought the R3 and done no mods, but it wouldn't be my dreram bike because the power is about the only thing i liked about it. The whole reason i replied is because this is one of those mindsets that always gets me....buy the more powerful bike if you want that power regardless of all the rest. i never understood that. I demo'd a R3 , and while i preferred the power over my bike at the time (speedmaster) I rode home from that demo thinking how much more i like the speedy and therefore would pass on the R3. And yet i was in love with it's power ! Buying it to me would have been like marrying a ugly woman with a horrible personality because she's got the biggest **** in town. Lucking the Tbird arrived and was exactly what i loved in my speedmaster but a lot more power and even handled a lot better. Otherwise i'd be on a speedmaster today still.

[LEE]

Originally Posted by dazco

Why are you even riding a R3 then when the 500+ HP boss hoss is available? Is there no point to the R3 since the BH is more powerful? How about the Diavel? The Vmax? If only the top dog powerwise is valid, the Tbird AND the R3 wouldn't exist.

First off boss hoss is not even able to hit the twisties....it is stricly a pig. The Rocket on the other hand is able to hit the twisties hard and you can power into the curves. I have ridden the Rocket for six years. It handles better than a lot of bikes much smaller because of the design. The engine with its' size is also not reflected in the Rocekts total weight.
I road the Tbird while waiting for service on my Rocket. I was greatly disapointed with it's handling and felt it was underpowered. The Tbird has its' place for someone who wants a bike that is almost as heavy as the Rocket and has not where the power of the Rocket. I don't understand myself what that place is, but for me the Rocket out shines the Tbird and many other bikes as well. I for one am glad though that the Rocket has a select group of riders. I like being part of the select group. I am going to get a new Rocket Roadster this year. While the Wing is great as a Touring bike it does not have the power of the Rocket.

Daz you may be able to peddle you tbirds advantages on the tbird forum, but don't come into the Rocket science forum and push it here. Us Rocket Captains know better.

[triplestrength]

What Lee said!

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[steve59]

You guy's are right. we are on the wrong forum to be peddling the virtues of the 'bird ...leaving now..sniff.

[dazco]

Originally Posted by LEE

First off boss hoss is not even able to hit the twisties....it is stricly a pig.

You do realize don't you that your opinion there is jaw droppingly different than 99% don't you? Every mag review raved about it's handling and i have read more used reviews here and elsewhere with owners of bonnies and sportbikes saying it outhandles the bonnie and even a couple sportie owners saying that peg clearance aside, it's close to thier sport bikes ! It's the running theme that's preached about the Tbird everywhere unlike any other cruiser i've read about. Thats not exaggeration or lies, thats what i have read since i got mine as a pre release in mid '09. I don't do that. I haven't seen one R3 article or owner that says anything other than it handles great for a bike so big. Not one insinuation that it's close to a sportbike or bonnie or anything like that. I have no idea how you could be the only person that says it handles like a pig, but i assume it has to do with your pride or R3 bias or whatever, but lets be real here ! And I rode a R3....it handled well, as many articles ay, "for such a big bike", but it's not in the same league at all IMO and that of most people and reviews.

the R3 has IT'S strong points to those to whom it appeals and both bike have thier value. But this is one thing where the Tbird is the clear winner buy ALL accounts but a very few R3 owners like you. Theres only one answer as to why that is i can fathom. As for being on the wrong forum for this, yes, but i'm not the one who started with the my bike's better than your stuff nor is a "which should i get, the R3 or Tbird" post one that shouldn't have opinions on both sides. I was simply trying to let it be known that the bike is capable of comparable power if he was to like the Tbird better but wanted both. Then everyone chimes in with the "tbird is a pig /can't be modded for more power" stuff. Anyways, i leave and let you all bias potential owners towards your model.

[jp99tbirdnm]

Did the annoying vehicle salesman really leave and go back to his forum?

[triplestrength]

Let's face it the Rocket3 is just too much bike for most to handle. I've never said it handles well for it's size, it handles well period.
Those who ride liddle diddy bikes like the Tbird need to feel that they are as good as the Rocket riders, and perhaps we shouldn't damage their fragile egos any more.
It must be hard to be second best.

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[LEE]

Dazco I don't want you posting in the Rocket forum. Stay out of this forum. We love our Rockets and I don't want you coming in here to create a problem. so if you start posting in here and cause any issues which we have not had beings it is one of the issue free forums I will have no problem putting you on limited access. Don't screw with this forum we do not care about your opinion.
Spread your crap somewhere else. First and Last warning. thank you Lee