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12-06-2012, 10:32 AM
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What is it with short guys and Rockets?
Had some heel extensions put in some boots. Nearly flat foot. Going to order Hagons to lower her 1". I do know I'll lose some ground clearance but have never been a peg scraper. Also have a guy that will reshape my seat; as Coneye so aptly pointed out, it's not the height but our girl's girth that makes riding her an issue. I'm hoping with the new shocks and seat reshaping will enable me to be confident in my normal boots. Don't like the platform boots.
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12-06-2012, 12:08 PM
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: vespa
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Originally Posted by Rocket XIII
If you're at 27", you may not be able to do the seat mods or the boot mods and get away clean.
However, shaving the seat is not just a matter of coming in with an electric knife and topping it off. You need to contour it at the front so that you can drop down when its time to stop. Sargent, Corbin, Mayer, and Russell (famous US seat builders / rebuilders) know this and can implement it well for many riders. Maybe there is an equivalent company in Oz. If not, maybe it would be a good start up company in Oz.
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. I appreciate the advice because I usually do my own seat customizing. Corbin (I don't know about the others) does not allow the same air flow as the stock seat,; it was that way on my Storm !
Iam retired and not looking to start a new company anywhere now.
I will take the matter up with the MUNCHKIN board of directers though !
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Echoraven----- Maybe with the Rockett attracting so many of the vertically challenged riders , Triumph may consider making the product fit the customers !
Last edited by zippyburgertush; 12-06-2012 at 12:15 PM.
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12-06-2012, 11:28 PM
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Damn Zip I'm 6' and have a 36" inseam. Shorter shocks maybe?
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12-07-2012, 01:37 AM
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: vespa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jp99tbirdnm
Damn Zip I'm 6' and have a 36" inseam. Shorter shocks maybe?
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Only thing that I haven't tried is letting the air out of my tires ! I really do appreciate all the input from everyone , hopefully, all this will cover anything that I have missed !---I do want that Rockett !
Gotta love the power ! !...........................
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12-07-2012, 11:08 AM
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Depends on which bike appeals to you more. You can no doubt fit to a R3 with shocks or seat mods. But there ARE Tbird mods that will do what you want. There are 2 guys in austrailia i know of getting numbers better then the R3 with cam and tuning mods. There are cams in the works here at south bay triumph, may even be done now. Personally i don't need that much, but i am positive i got as much of a power gain from simply bypassing the cat and removing the restrictive seat duct with a custom tune as i got from having the 1700 kit installed. Maybe more. It's still no r3, but it's getting a lot closer. Get cams, mod the intake even slightly like me, go decat, and get tuneboy and have it dyno tuned and it won't be the same bike. I was surprised as he|| when i did this.
There are guys who will make your storm kill, but you have to do the research or find a shop that is good and will mod your cams and do a custom tune. You can do the intake and decat mods yourself easily. Do all that and you won't be needing a R3. On the other hand, if you like the R3 enough thats the easiest route. I prefer the Tbird so for me the mod route is my only option.
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12-07-2012, 10:29 PM
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: vespa
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Hey dazco---
I have done all that to my Storm 1700( intake mods.,PC dyno tune , D&D exhaust including decat,even a little head clean up work and compression) I had it done,I didn't do it myself but I can't find cams for it !-- I now dyno @ 101 hp and 118tq.. Thats OK for a stock bike ---but I do want some excessive Hp & TQ --I believe that the Rockett can be coaxed to perform without much more effort.
I have been exchanging e-mails with those guys at South Bay Triumph since I bought my bike in early 2011....all I get is promises of new cams and superb headwork ! They can't seem to deliver on those promises and all expected new products do not seem to materialize !
My Storm now fits me well but I believe there is also a way to fit my pending new Rockett to my rather needy inseam requirements ! Australia is too far away to count on reliably obtaining speed parts-------------------------------
Old guys need to go fast too---Iam old not decrepit and I do love to ride an exciting cycle......................................thank you for the input !
Last edited by zippyburgertush; 12-07-2012 at 10:35 PM.
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12-08-2012, 03:13 AM
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My R3 dynoed at 140 hp, 150 ft lb with just TORs, cat bypass, and a Tuneboy tune. There is oodles more power available if you actually modify it.
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12-08-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tripps
Sure you're not a Gorilla? They do have a pretty low center of gravity, they are pretty well balance. A few on the Rocket forum have lowered them up to an inch, I think, and don't recall any handling complaints.
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Originally Posted by jp99tbirdnm
Damn Zip I'm 6' and have a 36" inseam. Shorter shocks maybe?
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If Zippy is a gorilla, JP must be a crane. (Must be great speed shifting with those back wards knees.) Short or tall the Rocket is a blast for all and will always be my favorite bike of all time. Go for it........
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12-08-2012, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zippyburgertush
Corbin (I don't know about the others) does not allow the same air flow as the stock seat,; it was that way on my Storm
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I tried a Corbin seat on my first R3T. As you point out, it did not have a snorkel to direct air into the top of the air filter like the stock seat has.
My first impression without the snorkel was that it did give me better gas mileage, but as time went on, I decided that the gas mileage variations were within the normal range of variation that can be attributed to grade, wind, air conditions, and the right wrist.
The seats that are built on the stock seat pan, as a custom seat from Russell or Sargent or Bill Mayer would be, retain the snorkel.
You know, I think the R3T sits lower than the Roadster. Its heavier and not quite as snappy, but its still a hoot. I liked my first one well enough to have seller's remorse, and so I re-acquired one just like it. Russell seat built on stock seat pan both times. Its the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden.
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12-09-2012, 10:28 AM
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The so called snorkel on the R3 seat directs air from the back of the seat through ducts into the filter. Aside from the restriction of the duct, the other restrictive effect is that when the bike is moving forward the engine is pulling against low pressure from behind the bike - the opposite of ram. No one has measured these effects and they could be insignificant. Th R3 Corbin seat pulls air from all around the base of the seat. It is LESS restrictive than stock. Again, I don't know if anyone has actually measured the difference. At some point, someone thought of disconnecting the R3 manifold from the air box and putting a big K&N filter on the tube from the manifold. This seems just like the BC air box replacement. It didn't do squat. The only thing that did do something significant was to rip the R3 manifold off and put a k&n or unifilter on each of the throttle bodies.
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