Main Motorcycle: 2012 T100
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Stockbridge, MI
Other Motorcycle: 2013 Rocket 3 Touring
Extra Motorcycle: '73 Ducati GT750
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The other cruisers I have ridden have all felt short of power, but I do not have this sensation with the R3T.
At lower rpms, no one else has the power of the R3 because no one else has their torque at those low rpms.
(Power in Horsepower) = (Torque in foot pounds)(engine speed in rpm)/5250.
If you've got 150 ft pounds of torque at 2000 rpm and another guy's got 100, guess which one will pull away faster if both are at that speed?
Obviously the key is matching the transmission to the road load and the engine. They've done an exceptional job with this on the R3T.
That 105 hp power spec is meaningless in the engine operating range that the transmission puts you for road situations.
Obviously the latest responses have nothing to do with the OP.
Are you new to the internet so that you don't understand how this stuff goes?
On the bright side, I don't think there have been any ad hominem attacks in this thread yet.
So ... should we stay focused, or is your goal to take us in a third direction?
My experience is that torque overcomes inertia and horsepower pushes the air out of the way. Unless one is traveling above, say, 115mph, when the air resistance starts to build up, about 85hp is more than enough for spirited, real world, non-race track riding.
So, I would probably answer my own question with the thought that the RIIIT is well set up, and gets better mileage, even though the Roadster has the higher spec engine. But I was really wondering if anyone had actual experience with the two different rides so as to say that one or the other has something you wouldn't want to miss.
I have a 2010 R3T, stock, it goes like a raped ape. Adding Jardines, triple K&N air filters and retune with TuneECU, it goes like a raped ape with it's ass on fire. Picture an 870 lb bagger that will pick up the front tire. Jardines are quite loud, though, fair warning. Can be unstable over 130 mph, I get an odd, slow weave. Thinking of going with the Carpenter package next.
I haven't dynoed it yet, but tune is supposed to be a 150 hp, 150 ft/lb tune.
Why did you buy the T-Bird instead of replacing your Rocket with another Rocket?
I had the Rocket for 8 years and had gotten everything I was going to get out of it. It was getting a bit heavy for me, lugging it in and out of the garage. I thought (temporary insanity) I was going to retire from motorcycling after 43 years. So I sold it, kind of impetuously. After about a month, I started getting antsy. I test drove a 103 Dyna, a 106 Victory, and a 1600 T-Bird. Aside from the power, the T-Bird is a better bike than the Rocket. It handles better and has much better brakes. Also, I don't like the mid controls on the Roadster. In any case, because of the power, I still think the R3 with ABS is the most amazing bike out there.
PS - I just broke my foot, after putting in big bucks to convert the T-Bird to a 1700, and it's questionable whether I can continue to have such a heavy bike. I may just have to get a lighter bike like a Bonnie. Full circle.
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