Triumphrat

Disco · 06-09-2005

Sound is only slightly better IMHO. Guess I need the cat bypass. Anyone out there also first install TORs with cat and later w/ cat bypass? Just trying to set my expectations.

Also, anyone try to make their own cat bypass? I've seen muffler shops do some amazing stuff with plain steel tubes. I would think a shop could make this pipe for a lot less than $350.

Thanks

Disco · 06-09-2005

Any answers? :???:

desmo666 · 06-09-2005

did exactly the same as yourself, now with the fully open system shall we say ! and the re-mapping to the 20055 tune the bike is much louder with quite a nice low rumble on idle. Only complaint is popping on the overun which when I first fitted the tor`s was evident but muffled, when the cat bypass went in as well it was rampant !the tune calmed it a little but it`s still there. After many years with italian and jap machinery I put the fueling of the engine down to it being symtamatic of Triumph`s build quality in general, that being as rough as a badgers arse, but saying that I still love the bike !
desmo 666

TriRocket3 · 06-09-2005

Here in UK I paid $630 for TORs
$600 for Decat
but they do make good power.
Les

desmo666 · 06-09-2005

How do you know ?
have you had it dyno`d, what was it pushing out at the back wheel ? I had a blackbird before the rocket and I think the hp after mods might be a tad optimistic, thats my seat of the pants feeling !

desmo666 · 06-09-2005

hey Les, does yours pop on the over-run ? and do you run with the official remapping of 20055 ?
desmo666

TriRocket3 · 06-09-2005

desmo
I think mine has 20056 pops most with hard downshifts.a pal has a std R111 we ride out together
sometimes swapping bikes.We both agree his is smoother
under 2500rpm but above that mine pulls noticeably harder
leaving his behind. I will dyno it as is my guess is 140 rwhp, then fit Jardines Pc3dyno again to compare, when they get here.
Les

dougl · 06-09-2005

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On 2005-06-09 12:41, desmo666 wrote:
How do you know ?
have you had it dyno`d, what was it pushing out at the back wheel ? I had a blackbird before the rocket and I think the hp after mods might be a tad optimistic, thats my seat of the pants feeling !

My dealer has an R3 with the same setup as mine (TORS and cat bypass). He dynoed his at 151 ft lb torque. I think the HP was over 140.

When the FAQ's were up, they said that the map for this setup is 20054, ne c'est pas?

desmo666 · 06-09-2005

Interesting stuff, been out on mine tonight and the only thing I can say is that at slow speed (as aproaching a junction ) the link between throttle and engine is not as smooth or as finely tuned as it once was,Great when going fast, not so great in town.
I think a power commander and dyno run would sort it,
the pdi and servicing by the dealer Ive used has left a lot to be desired, this dosn`t help !
desmo666

dougl · 06-09-2005

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On 2005-06-09 16:26, desmo666 wrote:
Interesting stuff, been out on mine tonight and the only thing I can say is that at slow speed (as aproaching a junction ) the link between throttle and engine is not as smooth or as finely tuned as it once was,Great when going fast, not so great in town.
I think a power commander and dyno run would sort it,
the pdi and servicing by the dealer Ive used has left a lot to be desired, this dosn`t help !
desmo666

I asked my dealer which tune he put on it and he said the one that Triumph specified. I believe it. The bike runs perfectly except for backfiring on decel everyone here says is not a problem.

My dealer is doing extensive testing on this bike - all of the tunes, different pipe configurations (including Jardines, which he has), and whatever changes they can make on the injectors. He doesn't have a Power Commander yet, which to me means it's not available. I'm not sure they have programs for all of the various exhaust configurations - their web site doesn't include the TOR/cat bypass configuration - (does it?).