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12-04-2008, 09:49 PM
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Grand Prix 500 Favourite Bike: Speed Triple R
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Barcelona, Spain
Posts: 110 Other Motorcycle: Street Triple R Extra Motorcycle: Silverwing SWT600
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Buy a Speed Triple 1995
Hi,
I've been looking at the Sp3 T309 series lately and have found two.
1995 models. One black one orange.
I tested the black one on a short run and quite enjoyed it although it IS top heavy and
tends to flop into tight corners. Also I found the clip-ons too low. Would I miss a 6th gear?
So, what do I have to do to improve handling and comfort?
LSL bars?
Raise the forks through the yoke (by how much?) I've done this on my TBS by 30mm and there's a great improvement.
- a fly screen - are there any available now?
Other stuff is more optional and depends on how much I've got to spend, but I'm interested in doing the following.
- Upgrading the brakes to 6 pot (on other threads some people have said that Tokicos fit. But are they a straight bolt-on?)
- engine upgrade - dyno kit and k&N filters
or cosworth Super 3 upgrade (is this worth it or reliable?)
- after market exhausts - Wolf - Trident exhausts seem to be the only option left. Is this true?
- fork spring and rear shock upgrade - Hagon seems like a good price-quality product. Any experience with them?
The bikes are priced at 4000€, but I haven't started haggling yet!!
Based on the replies I'll make a final decision!
Many thanks
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12-05-2008, 12:39 AM
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SuperSport Favourite Bike: '98 Sprint Executive
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Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 1,066 Other Motorcycle: '73 BMW R75/5 &'78 R100/7 Extra Motorcycle: '01 Suzuki DRZ400
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The Tokico six pots bolt right on.
I'm not sure that the Dyno Jet kit is worth the money, but then I've never used one. I bought just jets for $15. Dyno Jet also renumber their jets so you're locked in.
Are Cosworth parts even available any more? Pistons, cams, gaskets & what else? $$$$$$!
They aren't at all top heavy at speed, you'll find it a fun bike.
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12-05-2008, 05:33 AM
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Choice of tyre will make the flopping into tight corners worse or better, a less pointy but more rounded profile like Conti road attacks or Pilot roads help.
Not worth the cosworth route, difficult to find, moves power up the rev range, expensive.
Risers & screen sounds like it will help you there are a few options you can check out.
Tokico as said bolt straight on, but a ggod going over of the original set up can help a lot.
Loads of pipes available Lazer, Scorpoin, Quill, D&D, Remus, Micron & more.
'96 models have a 6th gear.
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12-05-2008, 09:37 AM
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Grand Prix 500 Favourite Bike: Speed Triple R
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Barcelona, Spain
Posts: 110 Other Motorcycle: Street Triple R Extra Motorcycle: Silverwing SWT600
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Brakes and screens
Thanks for replies.
Would this model 63mm six pot be compatible?
made by
Manufacturer: Suzuki
for these bikes
Model/ Series: GSXR 1000 K1 K2, GSXR 600 K1 K2 K3, GSXR 750 K1 K2 K3
or what are the compatible models?
And do you have any links to find the fly screens?
Thanks again
Simon
Last edited by senyorsimon; 12-05-2008 at 09:39 AM.
Reason: update
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12-05-2008, 10:32 AM
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Busa, GSXR1000 K1, Kawasaki ZX9R, ZX6R, Susuki GSX1400, Kawasaki ZXR1200,
There are a few other sports bikes & the like I can't remember, but what your looking for is 90mm between the centre of the caliper mounting bolts, apart from that the lowest mileage best condition you can get, they will bolt straight up onto your forks & hoses you'll only need fresh fluid and some new brass sealing washers.
6 Pots can be a pain to bleed in from a dry system so a vacuum bleeding tool of some sort may be handy too.
Good luck
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12-05-2008, 10:55 AM
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Grand Prix 500 Favourite Bike: Speed Triple R
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There are quite a few for sale on ebay. So, just to review, a GSXR K1 gold 6 pot (63 mm it says in the ad, whatever this refers to) would fit on then?
I'd get a mechanic to do the fitting. I've got a trusted guy who's very good. I'm useless!!
Thanks
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12-05-2008, 11:23 AM
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I've just had a look at them.....his description states 63mm between caliper mounting bolts..if that is the case then they won't fit, I would ask before bidding..
Deffo needs to be 90mm between bolts
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12-05-2008, 11:31 AM
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In fact looking closer I don't think they wiil be right...I think they need to be more like these...(they did do them in gold for some models too ;-)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR750...3A1|240%3A1318
Reason is as you can see the mounting holes are placed differently
You might be interested in this too ;-)
http://mottleybiker.com/page23.htm
Last edited by MotT3; 12-05-2008 at 11:36 AM.
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12-05-2008, 02:40 PM
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Location: Cambridge UK
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Hi,
On the dropping into corners. I agree with MOT, I changed to Conti Road attacks and found them much better. I also droped forks through tripple clamp a bit as well and this helped too, however I am very light so you may not need to do this.
The bike seems to be quite sensitive to the set up of the forks and the state of the tyres so if you are prepared to spend a bit of time on it you should be able to get a good setup.
I also put raised bars on (I used convertibars however mine is a daytona so they are hidden by the faring) and found this much improved not only comfort but also ability to handle the bike at low speed as it allows some bend in you arms which you can only achieve by going right over the tank with the clip ons. That is ok on a scratch but not round town or on long trips.
I love the bike now, making it fit me has transformed how I feel about it and how I enjoy it.
Andy.
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12-06-2008, 01:02 PM
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Grand Prix 500 Favourite Bike: Speed Triple R
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Barcelona, Spain
Posts: 110 Other Motorcycle: Street Triple R Extra Motorcycle: Silverwing SWT600
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More useful information
MotT3: Many thanks for the heads-up on the brakes. Saves making a big mistake!!
Jack Lilley replied to my email and I reckon this'll be useful info for everyone with a Speed 3 T309.
"You can get 6 pot Triumph calipers T3990130 Kit
caliper including master cyclinder is £678.34 inc vat
or you can get Beringer which cost around
£350-400 per caliper plus you will need the larger master cylinder
which will cost £232.00
You can not get Triumph belly pans but you can
get plain black aftermarket ones which cost £70
Again Triumph do not do a screen for the speed
triple but the Thruxton one fits at a cost of £135.20"
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