Camshafts facing the wrong way?

[bobbo]

OK, so here's the deal. I'm just in the middle of checking the valve adjustments on my 95 Daytona 900, using the trusty Haynes manual and MOT3's site (a bloody godsend!) and I'm just about to pull the camshafts to get at the shims. Now, both the above sources state that the little arrows on the camshafts should be facing one another when the crankshaft is set to T1. Thing is, on mine, the arrows are facing AWAY from each other. So my questions are -

1. Has some monkey at a Triumph stealership popped my camshafts in the wrong way round last time they were checked?

2. Is this going to have buggered up my motor?

3. Should I put them back in as they are now, or put them in with the arrows facing one another, as the manual says?

Also, all my inlet shims are WAY too tight, but that's about to be rectified, assuming I can find a friendly dealer nearby who will actually sell me some shims. Not as easy as it sounds. Germany is not renowned for it's helpfulness or customer service.

Anyway, thanks in advance
bob

[roadrunsl]

I did the valve adjustments two years ago. 5 of all 6 inlet valves was tight. I'm too far away from any Triumph dealer, so I resize them on magnetic cutting machine. (Not enough time to wait delivery)
About the camshafts - all is O.K. in my bike. As you describe :"the arrows are facing AWAY from each other" - you may need to turn the cranc one more turn and arrows will be facing one another. I believe the T1 mark is in wrong place on your bike. My advice: put them back in as they are now.
Good luck

[ervdrvr1]

Bobbo,
I doubt your cams or crank sensor plate is in wrong. Won't run right if either are. Sounds like you are at TDC on the exhaust stroke. Turn the crank one more time and you should be at TDC on the compression stroke(for #1 piston). Line the "T" up and the arrows pointing at each other and you can't go wrong. As for shims, Some Yamaha's take the same size shims(25mm dia, I think). Take your old shims with you, some shops will just swap without charging(shims don't wear out). My Triumph dealer won't swap, but the local Yamaha does.

Happy Trails!

Erv
Deep in the Heart of Texas!!

[KitNYC]

I agree with roadrunsl that another turn of the crank may put your cams in the right place. What I would do now is go back & check everything you've done to get to where you are.

I would put the cams back with the arrows facing each other as they should. I would also be very, very sure everything else is lined up correctly.

Some Hondas also use 25mm shims.

Cheers, HTH,
-Kit

[sailfish]

I get shims from and independent shop that services Japanese bikes. They swap or sell depending on their mood.

+3 on turning the engine around one more time. Cam shafts turn at 1/2 of crankshaft speed.

[MotT3]

+ 4 on turning the engine over one more time T1 can line line the arrows facing away as well as facing towards each other....a good point you have raised though..I'll update my description ;-)

[bobbo]

Ach yegods, I can be a numpty sometimes. Cheers all. Have managed to get all the shims bar one from the Honda and Yamaha garages in town. Honda are cheaper BTW. So I should just put everything back as I took it out and not do something silly like turn things around! Got it. First time I've buggered around with the innards and am therefore a wee bit worried that I might end up doing something terminal. Still, it will all be easier next time!