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Old 01-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Hi. On a recent thread you mentioned adjusting one of the jets on the carbs which improves running (out 2 1/2 turns from closed)?. I am keen to try this but I'm not sure which one you mean. Can you identify the one either by photo or such,thanks. (Mikunis)
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The adjustment you refer to is on the mixture screw. There is one on each carb. They are situated (if you imagine the carbs on the bike) right at the front of the carb body near the inlet manifold. They are on the underneath of the carb and may be seized so be careful with them. It is MUCH easier to do them with the carbs out.
If you're still stuck I have a spare set in the shed and can take a pic?
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Tripletom's advice is right-on. In the USA, the EPA governs emissions and sets those standards - which Triumph has to fulfil in order to import. This resulted in a rather lean starting circuit set up, that requires careful use of the choke and a slight loss in drivability - the dip in and around 5k rpm is also blamed on the the EPA requirements by some, as apparently at this time it was a sampling region - maybe. Though it is believed that the UK bikes are the primary factory tune, various regions of the world do have restrictions ie USA and California - and perhaps elsewhere?! Either way US bikes do respond to an enrichening of the starting circuit - of which, in this case the fuel screws are a part of. This 'making rich' does 'add' throughout out the throttle range but most noticeably in the lower rpm's. At this point perhaps a few UK residents might want to say their piece as to how many turns their 'screws are at' etc.... - in the USA they come capped off, the cap has to be drilled out to get to the screws - yours shouldn't be capped if it's a UK one. If you've changed to a K&N, you'll find a little tweak might make all the difference - you'll get to know your bike in the process, get some good old man/machine bonding time and all that good stuff - perhaps a game of hide the weenie with the missus later, even! Plastic off, Tank off, airbox off, a coil, pull the carbs, disconnect cables etc... - then clean and blow out - watch out for the little 'O' rings.
http://members.aol.com/cloudhid/carb.jpg Here the screw we are talking about is called the pilot (idle) mixture screw.
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K&N filter in airbox, 130 mains in all three carbs, mixture screw 2 3/4 turns out. Supertrapps on stock 3-2 pipework. Runs slightly rich and hesitant sometimes of idle. Stronger top end.
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Indexing your throttle with tape will help to identify the circuits. http://www.carbparts.com/mikuni/mikuni_tuning_info.htm so that you can implement tweaks with confidence. Taking notes/records of settings, is a good idea! http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...476/basics.htm show the overlaps as a diagram.
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Took carbs off yesterday (definately easier with Trident carb-engine rubbers,and airbox rubber supports removed). Screwed the jets in,then out 2 3/4 turns. Bike runs nicer cold and low rpms. Didn't notice improved start though,had to hook up battery to car. But still think chokes not doing job thanks
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Describe your typical starting procedure with this bike?
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Hi. Bike only starts with full choke and a little throttle,but takes a few attempts. If I try just choke,bike fires but doesn't run. Only way it will run after cold start is with tick over/idle screw turned in a few turns. Wont run on choke. What I have noticed is when riding after a cold start once I start using throttle with chokes say half on,bike starts to rev high as if chokes are kicking in, but wont rev like this on initial start. Bike was like this b4 fitting K&N.Bike does run nicer after making adjustments you advised to mixture screws. Could carbs be too lean?

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Do you blip the throttle on starting, to help the 'catch' or, do you just leave the throttle alone and let the choke do it's stuff on starting?
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Full choke,just a little throttle while cranking over,takes a few attempts. Bike wont start just on choke,fires but wont catch.
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