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T3 Sport / Touring Forum For the discerning Hinckley Sporting Enthusiasts. Open to all lovers of the original T3 Sport Models including the Trident, Sprint, Sprint Exec, Daytona, Trophy, and Speed Triple.

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Old 06-28-2010, 11:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sorry, I'm trying to help but I seem to be failing...

You *do* want what's on Charlie's D12, as it's a T3 and all of our T3s use the same brake calipers. Donors include any year Kawasaki ZRX-1100/1200, Suzuki Hayabusa through '06 (I think; the incompatible ones are radial so it's easy to tell), certain years of Kawi ZZR-600, and some GSX-Rs but not if they're different from the Hayabusa.

Also, I think Bernie was a bit optimistic in his pricing info. They can often be found for $50 + shipping, but I think only very rarely for $35.

Feel free to post up here with an eBay link if you want, or pm me, if you have a specific question about compatibility.

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Old 06-29-2010, 12:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks again Kit. There are a couple of sets on ebay right now, but as you mention, the pricing is a bit steeper...as in a $100 usd opening bid for one and a $200 usd "buy it now" for the other. The other set I mentioned had a 60 mm spacing according to the seller so definitely not the right parts..
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Kit may be right, but depends on how long you look and if you know what you are looking for. I set myself a $50 limit on bidding for a set of Tokicos, ended up scoring a set for around 35 plus shipping but it took some time. I was willing to wait, and I made sure that the sellers measured what they had to determine bolt spacing. I did searches for brakes for Kawasaki and Hayabusa, Tokico, Busa and several other things, you would be surprised how many ways the brake calipers get listed... Btw, I kept my 14mm (I think) master cylinder when I first put them on and didn't change mine until I found a 5/8 master that was reasonably priced. I really couldn't tell a difference but that is just me. IMO either will work, but you are probably better off with the larger 5/8 MC. Check your lines before you start, if you already have braided stainless then you may not need to change. Sometimes they are covered in the outer black rubber and look like the old original rubber lines from Triumph. Best wishes on your brakes

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Old 06-29-2010, 05:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks all

Looks like a secondhand set of 6 pot Tokico's, new discs and pads are the best way forward

Unless anyone knows anyone with a set of the gold Alcon 6 Pots for sale...
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Thanks for the info Bernie. It just so happens that some kind and helpful soul directed me to an ebay item (Tokico 6 pots) that hadn't come up in my searches and that was ready to go for $32.76. They are on their way as we speak...err..so to speak. Unless '94 Sprints came with braided lines as standard (haven't gotten around to checking yet) mine are whatever was standard. Since this particular project is for later on, I'll be looking for a 5/8 MC as well (what the heck - if the job is worth doing...) and replacing the brake lines if they aren't braided. First, I have to install my recently acquired oil seals (The dreaded sprocket cover leaks!) and I have to investigate what looks like a coolant leak at the front of the engine (Always something isn't there?) that has left a couple of small dried puddles on the garage floor. Ah well...even fixing problems on this little honey is fun...it's like being married to a Playboy Bunny who insists that you occasionally massage her. Would you really mind?
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I saw this thread and just thought I ask. I've just bought a Trident, and have a pair of 6 pot Tokicos in the garage. From a quick look it appears that the trident discs aren't floating, does this matter? and can I fit them with no problems? Thanks Rob
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Rob,
Not sure but I think the Trident rotors are smaller in diameter than the Speed Triple and Daytonas that usually get this upgrade. Don't think floating or fixed matters. That's to help prevent warping I think. Best way to tell is just see if they'll bolt up then check that the pads don't swipe past the outer edge of the rotor. Good luck.

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Rob, OEM Trident front brakes are fixed rotors, sliding calipers. To do the 6 pot conversion you need to go to floating rotors since the calipers will be fixed. to get proper alignment with the Tokico 6 pots you just flip the spacer with the oem triumph caliper to the other side and the alignment comes within a mm or so, well within tolerances. Check to make sure your Tokico 6 pot mounting holes are 90mm apart (c to c I think) and they should fit. You will need new floating rotors (EBC makes them as well as original triumph and a bunch of fancier ones) and some follks say you need to change the master cylinder as well, but for me the 14mm which is stock seemed to work as well as the 5/8 bore which is what came on the ones with 4 or 6 pot triumph calipers. Hope that explains things.

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see that Daytona Charlie posted while I was typing. Be very careful as fixed/floating makes a whole lot of difference. If you try to run fixed calipers and fixed rotors you are inviting disaster. The brakes could lock up within miles putting you and the bike in a pile on the road. Be very careful what you mix and match, especially with brakes! DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS CONVERSION WITHOUT CHANGING OUT THE FIXED ROTORS!!!!!

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Rob, OEM Trident front brakes are fixed rotors, sliding calipers. To do the 6 pot conversion you need to go to floating rotors since the calipers will be fixed. to get proper alignment with the Tokico 6 pots you just flip the spacer with the oem triumph caliper to the other side and the alignment comes within a mm or so, well within tolerances. Check to make sure your Tokico 6 pot mounting holes are 90mm apart (c to c I think) and they should fit. You will need new floating rotors (EBC makes them as well as original triumph and a bunch of fancier ones) and some follks say you need to change the master cylinder as well, but for me the 14mm which is stock seemed to work as well as the 5/8 bore which is what came on the ones with 4 or 6 pot triumph calipers. Hope that explains things.

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see that Daytona Charlie posted while I was typing. Be very careful as fixed/floating makes a whole lot of difference. If you try to run fixed calipers and fixed rotors you are inviting disaster. The brakes could lock up within miles putting you and the bike in a pile on the road. Be very careful what you mix and match, especially with brakes! DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS CONVERSION WITHOUT CHANGING OUT THE FIXED ROTORS!!!!!


Thanks for that Bernie, I wasn't sure. Good info!
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Thanks for the answers.....much appreciated..........I have a set of Sprint sport wheels which I may think about fitting if I'm going to look at floating disks..............I'm sure it'll be worth it.

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