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04-14-2009, 01:35 PM
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tokico vs nissin
i thought a few of you might be interested to know that here in the uk, alot of kawasaki owners are ditching their 6 pot tokicos in favour of our 4 pot nissins.
just thought you might like to know if you are considering the 6 pot conversion, especially if you know someone with a zx6/7r!
work out a deal with those kwak owners to get yourselves some cheap tokico's!
they are a direct replacement with no spacing/bracketry required
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04-14-2009, 03:01 PM
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Why are they doing that?
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04-14-2009, 03:15 PM
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because they know something that i also know.......
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04-14-2009, 05:29 PM
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Come on man, your killing us. Whats the go with the Tokicos?
I would like the six potters but i would probably do it with a front end change. The originals work ok...
Cheers,
Roden
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04-15-2009, 05:44 AM
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Tokico sixers with a 5/8" MC are better than the Nissin 4-pots that fit our bikes. The Nissin 4-pots are very, very good, but the Tokicos are better.
The Kawasaki people who have a clue are swapping front ends & ending up with 4-pot radial mount Nissins. The Kwaka people swapping their Tokico 6-pots for circumferential mount Nissin 4-pots are missing the point like Kanye West on South Park.
Cheers,
-Kit
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04-15-2009, 02:15 PM
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there is no denying that the 6 pots are good, but the kwak owners are having big issues with keeping them clean enough to function properly over here in the uk, they (or the ones that i know who have done the change) say that they keep binding, or just not getting enough feel, and reckon that when they switch to the 4 pots they are getting better feel, and more power (i suppose a m/c for 6 pots which then has 4 pots put on instead might do this)
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04-16-2009, 06:16 AM
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Done the six pot conversion
Have just converted to six pot Tokicos a couple of weeks ago - loads more feel and bags of two finger power - winter is just about finished so will probably have to wait a while to see about the dirt/binding side of things but don't think I will going back to the 4 pots in a hurry.
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04-16-2009, 06:22 AM
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More on my six pots
Just thought I should add - I have a Trophy but have replaced the forks with items from a 1200 Daytona - adjustable and not so mushy. Also changed the exhausts, front and rear pegs/hangers/levers, handlebars, clocks, and top fairing so for all intents and purposes it is pretty much a Daytona  (just waiting for my rear caliper/torque arm in the post)
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04-16-2009, 09:38 AM
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my 98 TLR trackbike has 6 pot tokicos. I rebuilt them with new seals and they are binding again. I added a radial master cylinder because they lack power and feel.
my 94 ST has 4 pot nissins. I think they're the DB's. They have excellent power and feel on a standard master cylinder and I run them with HH pads to aftermarket/replacement discs.
I have thought about swapping the 6 pots on the TLR and I will. I think the 4 pot suzuki SRADs are a straight swap. There's no way I'd want those crap 6 pot tokicos on my ST!!
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04-16-2009, 04:20 PM
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How odd. The only caliper design I've had consistent problems with is the Nissin twin-pot slider. (I think we can all agree that that one is pure ****e.)
The 6-pots on my RS sat out all Winter, and we had a particularly snowy (and therefore salty) Winter. I am having no problems at all with them, aside from finally approaching the end of pad life.
To each his own, I guess... Drop me a PM if you want to buy the 4-pot Nissins I pulled off my RS.
Cheers,
-Kit
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