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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-16-2017, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
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2016 Street Triple - shifting and risers

Wondering if you guys can offer any help with my two issues.

My '16 street triple is less than a month old with around 200 miles. When I come to a stop, downshifting while stopped, it won't go in to a lower gear unless I let out the clutch a little, pull clutch back in and then it makes a clicking sound and goes in to gear. Sometimes this happens for all the gears.

For example, I stopped while in 4th to test it out. Come to a stop, 4th gear, clutch already in, downshift, nothing happens. Clutch out, clutch in, downshift, thunk sound and it goes in to 3rd. Have to do this for all gears 3-2-1 sometimes. Or if I'm stopped and shift in to a neutral for a long light, it never goes in to 1st unless I clutch out, clutch in, downshift, thunk sound and it goes in to 1st.

I'm guessing because its a new bike? My last bike did this sometimes, but only from neutral to 1st.

My second question is, has anyone put on 7/8 or 1 1/8 risers on a 2016 street triple standard and didn't have to swap cables? I searched and the closest I could find was that the handlebars can be raised 1 1/4 without swapping clutch and brake lines. Just wanted to make sure before I ordered some risers.

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Sounds normal to me.

If you're stopped and want to shift down, try rocking the bike back and forth with the clutch fully disengaged and gently pushing down on the gear lever.

You could also try making a habit of downshifting as you slow down so you're in first gear right before you come to a complete stop.

Hope this shines some light onto your downshifting question.
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You should do all your downshifting while moving. The transmission works better when both sides of it are spinning. Besides, if you are downshifting to match your deceleration, you will be in the proper gear to accelerate away from a potentially dangerous situation, or just if the reason you are slowing suddenly goes away.

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thanks guys. i usually downshift + rev match when coming to a stop, but I just wasn't sure if my issue was "normal"
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Perfectly normal. Mine does the same thing if I have to stop quickly and don't get all the way down, because I'm concentrating more on the brakes.

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When you hold the clutch in the input shaft will slow and quit spinning eventually. To make a shift while moving the input and output need to be near the same speed. So to shift while moving you should let the clutch out between every shift. Making multiple shifts at a time without letting the clutch out can actually jam a transmission as the gears don't get a chance to engage fully with each shift until there is power applied to them by letting the clutch out.

At a stop you have a different problem. While the gears are at the same speed (stopped). The gears may not be meshing. Rotating either the input shaft by slipping the clutch or the output shaft by rocking the bike while holding gen shifter will let them mesh and slide into each other properly.

Another step to shifting that's not taught is positive shifting. You should hold the shift lever until the clutch is released so that the gears can mesh fully. If you make a shift release and then release the clutch it's possible the gears only partially engaged or didn't at all leaving you in a false neutral between gears.
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When you hold the clutch in the input shaft will slow and quit spinning eventually. To make a shift while moving the input and output need to be near the same speed. So to shift while moving you should let the clutch out between every shift. Making multiple shifts at a time without letting the clutch out can actually jam a transmission as the gears don't get a chance to engage fully with each shift until there is power applied to them by letting the clutch out.

At a stop you have a different problem. While the gears are at the same speed (stopped). The gears may not be meshing. Rotating either the input shaft by slipping the clutch or the output shaft by rocking the bike while holding gen shifter will let them mesh and slide into each other properly.

Another step to shifting that's not taught is positive shifting. You should hold the shift lever until the clutch is released so that the gears can mesh fully. If you make a shift release and then release the clutch it's possible the gears only partially engaged or didn't at all leaving you in a false neutral between gears.



I've never heard about this. Every now and then I'll either hit a false neutral between 2 and 3, or it will jump back to 2nd. I'll have to try to teach myself to do this. Thanks.

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The type of engine oil used can also make for different shifting behavior. I normally run Rotella T6 5w40, but I picked up some 0w40 this time around. It's not much different, but I've noticed more shifting anomalies than normal, particularly a refusal to downshift as you've seen.
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Please don't turn this into an oil thread. Yes oil can make a difference. Please follow your manual guidelines though. 0w is not approved and I remember Triumph somewhere specifically saying not to use it.
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Street Triple - shifting and risers

Hello servo,
On the risers issue. I have installed SW Motech 20 mm riser on my 2015 model and did not have to change cables. Have bought in Germany, thus the metric sizing. Its is close to the 7/8 inches raiser you mention (roughly 2 mm higher) so this one should work for you. i would not go to the 11/8 though...Hope this helps! Cheers,
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