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Old 04-03-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Is it just me??

Is it just me, or does anyone else find it irritating that the Streety keeps track of/displays all kinds of info.....EXCEPT A GAS GAUGE!!! I can find out how fast I did the last lap, my estimated MPG, my top speed..... but can I find out how much gas I have (I guess this is the LEAST important??)? NO. GRRR. What's next?..a big diplay readout of the current exchange rate instead of a tachometer?? Yeesh.
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I believe it isn't just you. From the moment i test rided it that was the thing that made the most negative impression. Fuel gauge is at least necessary. The cost of that wouldn't be much and i don't believe it was a weight issue. Any way i like my bike with it's problems and faults.
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Any time I see a post with this title in any forum, I always have the nearly irresistable urge to automatically respond YES, but with time and money, medical science will be able to give your condition a name. Given a more explicit title to work with... say, "Is it just me, or is Michael Jackson peculiar?"... my instinct is to respond, "No, I believe that's a false dilemma. It's entirely possible you can both be peculiar."

In this case, though, I'll be more serious-minded.

Out of the nine motorcycles I've owned (and unknown number of others I've ridden), none have ever had a fuel gauge! So, I don't feel I'm being deprived of anything. Also, as a result of not having one, I've learned to keep an eye on the odometer and know when to expect the need to refuel. The warning light works fine too on the more recent ones, so lack of another dial to watch is simply a fact of life to me.

Furthermore, on fuel-injected, catalytic-converter models, there's probably also an engineering decision involved. You don't want people to start trusting a dial enough to try and squeeze the last drop out of the tank, when the consequence of guessing wrong is the failure of an important emission control component. Manufacturers do have to worry about that sort of thing, as they are legally required to make sure the emission system lasts a certain amount of time and/or distance.
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Diego, I would normally agree with you...but in this case I don't. If a manufacturer puts as much effort into calculating average or instant mpg (or lap time, top speed, etc) than they can CERTAINLY put a fuel gauge on it. If "trusting a gauge" is a valid arguement...than one should not trust a "warning light" as well (which it DOES have). IF it affected the imissions system than so too would it affect it when the "warning light" comes on. Simply..there is NO excuse to not have a fuel guage on a modern bike (and yes...my past 4 bikes have not had one as well..but they also did not calculate average or instant mpg, top speed, lap times, etc, EITHER). There is NO getting around that this was a lack of foresight on Triumphs part. Triumph deserves the heat for this and hopefully they will LEARN (but that won't happen by making escuses for them).

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Like Diego I've never owned a bike with an actual fuel gauge. The way I see it is like so. I have a 4.6 gallon tank. I get a low average of say 35MPG. Therefore I should be thinking of topping off somewhere around 120 miles to be on the safe side. On my touring bike I generally stop after 100 miles to stretch, drink water, hit the restroom and top off the tank. I never get close to running out of gas if I can help it and I never rely on the low fuel light. IT's never bothered me that I didn't have a fuel gauge. Once I figured my average gas mileage I was good to go.
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I have to agree with you Ken. The argument that not having a fuel gauge is the manufacturer’s way of protecting their product is kind of weak. If that were the case then cars would not come with fuel gauges either. I don't see BMW or Ford removing their fuel gauges and asking people to count their driven miles happening anytime soon. I believe the obvious reason that this bike does not have a fuel gauge is so that Triumph could sell the bike as inexpensively as possible. Some people will appreciate that and some would be very willing to spend more money on it for missing features they desire. I personally would be very willing to spend extra to have a fuel gauge. But, no gauge is also something that a buyer should have known about before making the purchase and then weigh the pro's and con's and then decide if not having this benefit is a deal breaker. My Rocket did not come with a fuel gauge but I purchased the gauge accessory. I have had bikes with a gauge and bikes without a gauge. To me a gauge is a good tool. I still fill-up before I am on empty and before the light comes on but it is very nice to be able to glance at the gauge while riding and get a good idea of where you stand on this important fact.
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most (sport) bikes don't have fuel gauges in my experience, i didn't expect different
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If "trusting a gauge" is a valid arguement...than one should not trust a "warning light" as well (which it DOES have). IF it affected the imissions system than so too would it affect it when the "warning light" comes on. .... There is NO getting around that this was a lack of foresight on Triumphs part. Triumph deserves the heat for this and hopefully they will LEARN (but that won't happen by making escuses for them).
Oh, c'mon, Ken. That's a very absolutist argument.

There is no "if" to the emission thing--catalytic converters in motorcycle exhausts are smaller and not as robust as on cars. It's a lot easier to overheat and damage them by running out of fuel. The thing about the warning light is, you have some miles before you run out but you don't know exactly how many. So, if you're smart, you stop for fuel before you end up walking, and the desired side effect (from the regulatory point of view) is that you don't trash your emission controls in the process. Conversely, the temptation with a gauge is to see just how far you can absolutely go...hey, it's in the red but not all the way down to "E" yet...and the only way you'll find out for sure is by running out.

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there is NO excuse to not have a fuel guage on a modern bike (and yes...my past 4 bikes have not had one as well..but they also did not calculate average or instant mpg, top speed, lap times, etc, EITHER)
Sounds like a case of "If you give me extra toppings for my hamburger, I'll criticize you for not giving me steak."

Let's bear in mind that the MPG readings are only guesses based on throttle position, not actual calculations based on fuel flow. They're normally way off. Top speed depends on the accuracy of the speedometer, and we know they have to err on the conservative side with those for regulatory reasons too. The consequences of the inevitable errors and approximations don't matter a whole lot in these instances, and it costs nothing (fiscally or regulatorily) to include them. That's the only reason they're there.

If Triumph was shortsighted, maybe it was in failing to realize they'd be fostering unrealistic expectations in some percentage of customers by adding a few nice extra touches to an inexpensive bike.
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Whoops! I have to correct myself. I actually do own one bike that has a fuel gauge. It's right there in my avatar... the Tiger. The indication is so useless below half a tank, though, that I'd completely forgotten its existence. I depend entirely on the trip odometer and warning light anyway.

I suppose Triumph could put another toggle combination on the Striple's console to turn the bar graph into a fuel indicator that starts flashing somewhere vaguely below half a tank.... equally useless as the Tiger's, but maybe it would engender a warm, fuzzy feeling.
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If Triumph's main reason for not providing a fuel gauge on the Street Triple was so that people would not damage their own engines by running out of gas then why would they offer fuel gauges on some of their models and not others? The reason is simply that they wanted to sell this bike as cheaply as they could. I do not hold this against Triumph. I researched this bike and decided to purchase it as it is. I would however be very happy to have spent a little more to cover the cost of a fuel gauge if that was an option.

I dislike walking and pushing enough to fill-up before I am on empty but I like the convenience of a gauge.
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