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post #1 of 70 (permalink) Old 02-25-2017, 08:14 PM Thread Starter
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Hi all, I just joined up because I am seriously considering buying a Street Triple 765 and I would like to get some advice about which model to choose and how to best negotiate with dealers to get the best price/package. I just sold my 2009 Aprilia Shiver 750 today for $4000, and have a 2006 Yamaha R1 that I'm getting ready to sell very soon. My plan is to walk into my local Triumph dealer cash in hand in attempt of getting a lower price or have some extra prats/service thrown in for free. I almost traded in my Aprilia last year for a base model Street Triple 675 but backed out of the deal after considering that I didn't want to finance at all. Long story short, I traded my sports car for an R1 in hopes that the bike would sell faster than my car. This plan backfired on me and now almost a year later I still don't own a Street Triple. Well, as unfortunate as events where with the outcome of a bad trade and ending up with an R1 with a prior selvage title (I did not know this upon receiving the bike). I'm so glad I waited because the ST 765 is exactly the bike I've been waiting for!!! Basically I was torn between the Daytona and the Street Triple. The Daytona had more top end power, but the Street Triple had the more upright seating that I have grown accustom to while riding the naked Aprilia Shiver. Both bikes, while having adequate power, where still lacking a little in the torque department in my opinion and I really didn't want to go to a smaller motor from my 750. So I was totally stoked when I found out about the 765, it is exactly what I've been looking for ever sense I was introduced to the street fighter style bikes.

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What exactly is the difference between the R and RS models power wise. I mean, I understand all the little differences in suspension and break components and that the RS has 5 more "PEAK" horse power. They both have the exact same "PEAK" 55-56 ft lbs of torque but at slightly different RPM. But I read in a track test review that the RS did not have much more low end torque than the 675 had, but that all the added power was at the top end of the rev range. Which got me thinking that maybe the R was mapped different than the RS to deliver more mid range and less top end. After all, this would make sense considering that the RS model is geared more toward track use, and the R is more of a street purposed bike. I looked and looked, but all the test ride reviews out on the net right now are only for the RS model. The reviewers make mention of the S and R models by listing all their specs and components, but so far it looks like no one has actually ridden the other models. How would I find out what the differences are unless the dealership allows me to test ride both bikes back to back. Which I doubt they would allow me to do, it felt like pulling teeth last time convincing them to allow me to test just one bike, let alone two. And I never ended up test riding it, because I didn't want to take a ride on it if I wasn't going to actually buy it at that moment. It would have killed me to ride it and then walk away without it. I knew I didn't want to finance and that was my final decision.
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I could be reading into this too much, but the triumph web site makes it pretty clear what they intended to do by making 3 different models. This is a direct quote from www.triumphmotorcycles.com.

"With more than 80 new parts including an increased bore and stroke, new cams, pistons and Nikasil plated aluminium barrels, the result is a spectacular advance in performance, particularly low-down and in the mid-range."

So it was disappointing and confusing when I read multiple test riders comment that the added power of the RS was at the top end and not down low when compared to the ST 675. But then the site goes on to say this.

"Each come with their own unique tailor made level of power, performance, technology and suspension."

"Taking the performance, specification and finish to a higher level the Street Triple R delivers the perfect blend of power and performance for focused road riding."

"The range topping new Street Triple RS is the most explosive and adrenaline-charged Street Triple we’ve ever built. At home on the track, and a weapon on the road, it literally tears up the rule book and sets a whole new standard."

Which got me thinking that the RS's power band is geared more toward track use and the R's power band has more torque for the streets. But so far I haven't heard from anyone who has actually ridden an R model.
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Just a comment on the "lower price & free goodies" part of the OP's question. I think you will be lucky to get that bike at MSRP, regardless of trim level and possibly without paying a premium.
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Just a comment on the "lower price & free goodies" part of the OP's question. I think you will be lucky to get that bike at MSRP, regardless of trim level and possibly without paying a premium.
Agreed. I bought my 2013 Street Triple R in March 2013, and was happy to get it at MSRP (minus a $300 military discount). The dealer from where I bought it was selling them as fast as they could get them in.

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Location definitely plays a roll into it. Where I'm from I can't find any dealer who will give any sort of decent discount on a Street Triple R. They all seem to be full msrp + freight + setup + ttl. Occasionally there's a manufacture promotion, but I doubt that will be the case with the new model.
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I wasn't really thinking of getting a lower than MSRP price, more like getting the stupid fees waved or something. They really gouge you with that stuff. I figure walking in there with a pocket full of cash would convince them to budge on something. That's interesting you brought up the military discount, I wouldn't have thought of that. I still have my old ID though I have really long hair and a beard now lol. Maybe they have a veterans deal. When I was about to buy the 2016 Street Triple base model last year, they where offering $700 worth of free parts or service along with the bike. I convinced them to give me $700 cash back instead if I bought it that day (but I backed out of the deal last minute).
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Heck, even if they charged full MSRP and all the fees, I would be stoked if they would just throw in a slip on arrow exhaust or something to sweeten the cash deal.

Which brings up another question, when you go on Triumphs web site and do the build your bike option. Can you actually get the dealer to order a bike just like that from Triumph? Or do they put those parts on themselves and charge you out the butt for them?
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I wasn't really thinking of getting a lower than MSRP price, more like getting the stupid fees waved or something. They really gouge you with that stuff. I figure walking in there with a pocket full of cash would convince them to budge on something. That's interesting you brought up the military discount, I wouldn't have thought of that. I still have my old ID though I have really long hair and a beard now lol. Maybe they have a veterans deal. When I was about to buy the 2016 Street Triple base model last year, they where offering $700 worth of free parts or service along with the bike. I convinced them to give me $700 cash back instead if I bought it that day (but I backed out of the deal last minute).
I didn't think of it either. They salesman saw it in my wallet when I pulled out my license, and asked me. My ID is pink - I'm Reserve Retired Awaiting Pay, not active duty - so maybe any Mil ID would work?

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I'll echo some of the comments as I think it's going to be hard to get anything less than MSRP and it may be hard to get anything to sweeten the deal, like a slip-on. It's all going to depend on the area you live in, in the US you may have a better time as Triumphs are not as popular as in the U.K. of course, and in some cities they're not as popular if a majority of riders are cruiser guys.

If the dealer can't keep the model in stock where you are at, they'll know the next guy that walks in will pay full price without any other incentives.
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Something to consider on the power front...on the top model you get added HP up top...it's not like it's lacking down low to begin (nor are the others). But if you don't ride around at those rpm levels, then you don't need it. Unless you just want those stats for the pecker measuring contest at the pub.

Bottom line is you need to figure out which model suits your riding habits. No need spending more for things you'll never use or need.
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