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post #51 of 72 (permalink) Old 03-21-2017, 12:15 AM Thread Starter
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You all bring up some really good points, and yeah I do tend to get board of things rather quickly and want to try something new. But I'm tired of owning older used bikes that people have messed with and abused. Owning a brand new or almost new bike has been on my wish list for a few years now. I've only had three bikes, an R6, the Aprilia Shiver 750 I just sold, and now an R1. After taking the R1 for a spin just now I decided that I really don't like the super sport class bikes, and an R1 has a ridiculous amount of power for street use. It's fun as hell but I don't want to get myself killed, I'd rather enjoy riding for many years to come without having a major crash. The Aprilia was almost the perfect bike for me, except for the fact that it was really heavy for a sport bike and it had almost no power over 8k RPM. From all the reading and research I've done over the years, I decided that the Triumph street triple is the perfect bike for me. Except I wished they would make it with a slightly larger motor. Well now they have!!! Seeing the 765 launch video for the first time was like a dream come true, I almost wet myself lol. So yeah, if I did cheap out and get a used street triple, I would probably be happy with it for years to come because its the bike I've wanted all along. But I will eventually want to upgrade to the 765 anyway.

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post #52 of 72 (permalink) Old 03-21-2017, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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All I can say is that as a current 2016 Street triple R owner. The new model addresses just about every single compliant I had about the bike I own. So much so that I am probably making the switch as soon as they are available here.
What exactly where your complaints with the 2016 street triple?
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post #53 of 72 (permalink) Old 03-21-2017, 12:25 AM Thread Starter
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$13k otd will get you just about any naked on the market and that's a lot of competition. Leftover models is the way I go when I gotta have a new bike. I've read guys on this forum getting new leftover speed triples for $10k(11-15 models), an 1100 tuono v4 leftover can be found for $13k same with a base s1kr. I would require a demo and riding as many bikes in the same price range is the best way for me to avoid buyer's remorse. If i ride all the bikes in the class regardless of price I get a real feel for the trade offs between models and then I can live with my decision because I bought aware. As for getting salesmen/dealerships to allow demos on new models the naked market's still pretty flat compared to adv, classics, and cruisers that if they smell a sale they usually give up the keys, Good luck and i'll add pricing insurance before buying can get some surprising results.
As much as I would love to get a leftover Tuono V4, I'm afraid it would be a bit too much power for me and get me into trouble, much like the R1. It scares the crap out of me how much I enjoy twisting the throttle all the way back almost anywhere I go with complete disregard of the speed limit. And to me, that is not a good thing. Bikes like the V4 and R1 just beg to be ridden hard.

Oh, and we don't have Aprilia dealers around here

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You all bring up some really good points, and yeah I do tend to get board of things rather quickly and want to try something new. But I'm tired of owning older used bikes that people have messed with and abused. Owning a brand new or almost new bike has been on my wish list for a few years now. I've only had three bikes, an R6, the Aprilia Shiver 750 I just sold, and now an R1. After taking the R1 for a spin just now I decided that I really don't like the super sport class bikes, and an R1 has a ridiculous amount of power for street use. It's fun as hell but I don't want to get myself killed, I'd rather enjoy riding for many years to come without having a major crash. The Aprilia was almost the perfect bike for me, except for the fact that it was really heavy for a sport bike and it had almost no power over 8k RPM. From all the reading and research I've done over the years, I decided that the Triumph street triple is the perfect bike for me. Except I wished they would make it with a slightly larger motor. Well now they have!!! Seeing the 765 launch video for the first time was like a dream come true, I almost wet myself lol. So yeah, if I did cheap out and get a used street triple, I would probably be happy with it for years to come because its the bike I've wanted all along. But I will eventually want to upgrade to the 765 anyway.
Nearly new is the way to go. You get the feeling of a bike that rides and looks brand new with the benefits of not paying for depreciation and getting a load of factory accessories for free.

The biggest lesson I've learned in my years of riding is don't judge a bike until you've ridden it. I traded my street triple for a Thruxton because I found it more fun and chose the underpowered Speed Triple over the class leading S1000R because I found the BMW dull and too easy to ride.
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It is a personal choice at the end of the day. There are normally two ways I look at this sort of problem.

1. Pros and cons of the buying the new 765

Pros
1. More torque, (in the real world this probably means being able to be a bit lazier on the gears)
2. 1 finger blacking
3. Lighter clutch
4. Better display
5. TC & newer ABS
6. Warranty / longer before stuff wears out
7. That new bike feeling

Cons
1. Up to twice as expensive
2. Probably some new model technical issues
3. Less aftermarket goodies available
4. More expensive to insure

Others will have different lists. I didn't put in the posh suspension because I know the old bikes set up was just fine for me, but it will be important to others.

2. Which is the best value?
Personally I found the 675 to be a peach of a motor, and I don't expect the 765 to be that much better.
However as has been said before the financial considerations come down to knowing how long you are likely to keep the bike.

If you sell after a year you may loose £500 on the old bike and £2,500 on the new, so cost of ownership is £2,000 a year more on the new one. If you keep the bike for 5 years you may loose £2,500 on the old bike and £5,000 on the new, so the cost of ownership is only £500 a year difference.

All that is pretty obvious but I find it helps me decide. In short If I really like a bike on the demo I am happy to get a new one as I know I will keep it for a while and the cost per year is reasonable. If I am not 100% sure a secondhand one is the way to go.

I get it wrong though, I thought the Thruxton R was a keeper but I was looking elsewhere within a year.
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What exactly where your complaints with the 2016 street triple?
I thought it needed about 10% more power/torque and shorter 1/2 gear. Also known as I am a sucker for wheelies. But I am at a higher elevation so that may not be needed for all you sea level guys.


I also wanted traction control, and the ohlins suspension. Not really a shortcoming on the old bike, but definitely something I would be into upgrading for.
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I texted the guy again today to see if I could come down to Arkansas on Saturday to get the 2015 RX. He told me he already had a guy coming on Thursday to buy the bike but he would let me know if the deal fell through. I was a little disappointed, but figured it gave me an excuse to spend the extra $5k on a 765. Four hours later he told me the deal fell through and he would let me have it for the same price the other guy offered, $7600. It's only $200 less than his previous asking price but he had told me before that he would not budge on the price at all. At $7600 I think this is a deal I can't pass up. I will probably ride it for a year or two and then sell it to get a slightly used 765 R. If all goes well I will be posting pictures of my new bike this week end

Another benefit of buying this bike is I won't be missing out on some nice spring riding weather while waiting around for the 765 R to drop in the US. Which could possibly not be till early summer. I'm eager to get back on the twisty roads of the Ozarks with a reliable naked bike. I wouldn't feel very safe going on long trips with the older Yamaha, and I may have a guy buying it this week anyway.
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Congrats,Like you say by the time you're getting used to the 675 the 765 will be at a more approachable price. Enjoy
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Congratulations! I think you made a sound choice. You're saving money and by the time you're looking to upgrade you'll be able to get a deal then too. Also, that'll give time for any teething issues to become known so you'll be able to make a more informed decision.

I have a 2015 STR and when the new model came out, to be honest I thought that "I gotta have that" for a few days. After thinking about it, I really don't have any complaints on the one I have. The only thing that consistently annoys me is the mix of fasteners they use but that's because I like to work on my bike myself.
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I recently put my money on a 765 RS. The specs and reviews just sound like this could be the perfect bike for me. Hope I'm right...

As an average talented rider on the track (my elbows not yet touched the tarmac ) and a daily commuter since ages I've opted for the RS Version because I've learned over the years that perfect braking and perfect cornering is the ice on the cake of sporty and save motorcycling ... the more ice the more fun and safety - simple as that.

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