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thank you for responding to me ORANGEMAN, i am of the opinion that any improvement is just that. however i do see where ur coming from also. as for durability i am perplexed. i have had others say they are good for the track but not real world driving. however speaking with DYMAG they point to the following organizations testing of said wheels, All race and road wheels are tested to relevant BS, JWL, DOT and TUV tests for impact and fatigue life and they passed. i've already made my decision just wanted to chat with other like minded people. not haters like ive seem to have found on other forums of the site...........peace
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