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Sure, this thread is 18 months old, but, I gotta weigh in here! Yes, a few years ago, there wasn't a Yamaha FZ-09 with 847cc's in a triple. There wasn't an 800cc MV Agusta Brutale available either. And, it seems that the 'new' midsize bike is 800cc's- is anyone else seeing the trend here?
Whether it's an inline 4, or a V-Twin, or, a triple- 800cc's is the industries hottest motor size, meeting the Goldilock's dream of: Not too big, so, I'm overwhelmed, and, 600cc- too small, and, I'm bouncing off of the rev limiter all the time? I think I could string together all of the YT video's where some motojournalist says, 800cc it's jusssst right!
The Speed Triple is past due for an overhaul, diet & re-pricing based on market forces. The Street triple just hit it's fighting weight at a real 400 Lbs with very small modifications: Lithium Battery + Arrow slip on (-2 Lbs), eliminate the rear pillion pegs (user choice) & do the 'free' tail tidy for the last few ounces. But, the addition of that really tall 1st gear will definitely impact sales over time since it keeps the motor on power below the 4,000 RPM threshold needed to eliminate the vibrating grating point for too long. I'm guessing that the 2015's will see a shorter 1st- maybe not Hooligan approved, but, enough to hoist the front probably.
As of now, Triumph needs a 800cc streetfighter, that weighs in about the same as the current StripleR, or, they run the risk of falling behind, when for years- they have been the market leader! Yes, I'm happy with my '14 STripleR 675 for $10,400 out the door, but, I have to be honest. The Yamaha FZ-09 was a very close 2nd. If the handling was even a little better (bottoming out the front forks on a test ride is not a good sign), I would have saved $2,000- in a heart beat. Not to mention, I've owned Yamaha's in the past, without a problem to speak of over many miles...
Now, if I have the same quality of ownership experience with this Triumph, as I've had with Yamaha, I will be convinced. But, what to buy when I'm all done with the power of the 675? I have no where to go as of now. Like many owers, I have a family bike, a grocery getter that I can take the kids, or wife, on, or ride to the ocean, or nearest mountain, or lake. It seems that many (possibly over 50%) of current owners have a 2nd bike that meets other riding needs: mud wrestling dirt bike, cruiser, or, vintage classic if that's what works for them. So, in an interest in keeping loyal owners happy, Triumph should now see the need to 'add' an 800cc streetfighter to the mix.
From what I've seen on the Tiger, it has a ton of torque, and, excellent fuelling from idle to redline. Properly tuned for a streetfighter role, with larger pipes, hotter cams and mid range mapping, it would be a natural move for a satisfied 675 owner, as well as drawing in other, new Triumph loyalists from other brands. In the US, Naked bikes are not very popular, and, tend to do well in smaller groupings of riders, because, well- they aren't H-D's or rice rockets, which define 2 very clear markets. I can't tell you how disappointed I am that the new Kawasaki Z800 isn't here (can't see it coming either), because that is a very nice, refined, inline 4 with a great suspension, awesome brakes & it's good looking to boot!
I'll let Triumph figure out what to call this middle child, but, to be clear NOW is the time to design/build it. Not in 3 years, when the market has moved to the 900cc engine as the then current darling... They have everything they need already, a capable engine, a design team that has wrestled with a re-design of the frame on the Street Triple, so, they already know what the possible issues are. Finally, a counter-rotating crank & flywheel, ala F3, and, a revised firing order to increase torque, ala Yamaha FZ-09, a wet weight target of 400Lbs out the door, with a full tank of gas, and even a 42MPG goal could be achieved, with a 5 gallon tank, giving it real range. Like I said, the engineering team has just been through it, so, they have solutions currently that work.
And, while they are 'creating' it, they can install Traction Control, and, a Wet mode, with less power and a longer throttle tip in to add speed. A fresh chance to re-mold a middle child, maybe with some added features for more seasoned, mature riders. All for around $11,000 for the 'R' version, a little more than the 675, a little less than the Speed Triple. And, while they are having a 'do over' on the Speed Triple, they can add cruise control, as well as a few levels of traction control, perhaps a few engine modes as well. City/Wet/Sport would do it, with city & sport getting all the power, and, wet getting a little less. Is it me, or, is the Speed Triple a really good basis for a naked sport touring platform? Finally, what would be so bad about all of the bikes having a USB power outlet, somewhere near the front of the bike? It seems like a low cost no brainer to me?
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