Triumphrat

welshrob · 11-03-2012, 01:57 AM

I`ve just fitted a secondhand replacement instrument panel to a mate`s 09 Street Triple R. He has the older black dash surface, this is a newer one (but not the latest type) which is near identical but with a white dash surface, it was from a Daytona 675, I think.

It plugs in, lights up, shows mileage etc but the engine management light is flashing and the bike won`t turn over.

Plug the old instrument panel back in and the bike turns over and starts but the engine management light is still flashing.

1. Can anyone shed any light on why this is happening?

2. Is it possible to get the replacement panel to work, or does it have to go back on ebay?

3. How do we reset the engine management light on the original panel, is it three hot/cold cycles or use tune ECU?

Thanks.

JCP · 11-03-2012, 03:57 AM

Rob,
I've tried this and I'm afraid Daytona clocks aren't compatible with the Street. I bought a new set of 2010 'tona clocks (from a bike being prepared for racing) as an upgrade for my 08 Striple and had the same outcome. My vendor returned my money and sold me some Striple clocks.
The EML should reset after 3 cycles as the "fault" has been resolved.
I'm afraid my solution didn't involve finding the area of incompatibility but since a new set of correct clocks did work on a plug and play basis I'm confident it does not mean the clocks are paired with the ECU. I would suspect that they simply don't work with an ECU mapped for a Striple rather than a 'tona. If you are a Tune ECU expert you could try to see whether the ECU will accept a 'tona map and try again? I cannot say this would work and wouldn't be sure it is possible or even safe.

welshrob · 11-04-2012, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JCP

Rob,
I've tried this and I'm afraid Daytona clocks aren't compatible with the Street. I bought a new set of 2010 'tona clocks (from a bike being prepared for racing) as an upgrade for my 08 Striple and had the same outcome. My vendor returned my money and sold me some Striple clocks.

Thanks for that, I don`t think that is the issue, though. I did some more homework, I checked the part number, T2501505, and 2 wheel Pro`s list that as "TRIUMPH - INSTRUMENT ASSY" Street Triple 2009 and 2010.

I posted a similar thread in the maintenace section, the answer posted by MacBandit is that any new instrument assy fitted has to be unlocked by the dealer. I`m going to ring them monday to check on this.

rand4ll · 11-04-2012, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by welshrob

I`ve just fitted a secondhand replacement instrument panel to a mate`s 09 Street Triple R. He has the older black dash surface, this is a newer one (but not the latest type) which is near identical but with a white dash surface, it was from a Daytona 675, I think.

It plugs in, lights up, shows mileage etc but the engine management light is flashing and the bike won`t turn over.

Plug the old instrument panel back in and the bike turns over and starts but the engine management light is still flashing.

1. Can anyone shed any light on why this is happening?

2. Is it possible to get the replacement panel to work, or does it have to go back on ebay?

3. How do we reset the engine management light on the original panel, is it three hot/cold cycles or use tune ECU?

Thanks.

The mileage I know is stored in the dash assembly so it won't be the bikes actual mileage. I had to get a new dash under warranty and my bike showed zero miles even though it already had 1500. Also I have read elsewhere that the Daytona clocks will not work with the striple. Even older clocks won't work on newer models supposedly.

welshrob · 11-04-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JCP

Rob,
I've tried this and I'm afraid Daytona clocks aren't compatible with the Street. I bought a new set of 2010 'tona clocks (from a bike being prepared for racing) as an upgrade for my 08 Striple and had the same outcome. My vendor returned my money and sold me some Striple clocks.
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Looks like you were right, or near enough. Even though they ARE Striple clocks, there must have been some changes which makes them non compatible.

I spoke to my dealer today, he says that they have replaced instruments before and they are "plug and play." He thinks that there is most likely a conflict between some of the sensors on the bike that interact with the instrument assy, because the instruments are from a slightly later model.

Next step is to plug TuneECU in and find out what fault code comes up. although I expect we will be putting this particular instrument assy back on ebay in the very near future!

welshrob · 12-06-2012, 05:18 AM

OK, here is the final word on this. The instruments are matched with the the ECU, in batches of VIN numbers. No Sh*t. If a bike needs a new instrument panel, you order it from Triumph and supply your bike`s VIN number and they will supply one that matches. Secondhand? Forget it. The batches are really small, the instrument panel we tried to fit was from a 12/09 Street Triple, the bike we were fitting it to was an 08/09.

After consulting with ANOTHER dealer, he pulled out the VIN Batches. In order to work with the bike in question, the instruments HAD to be from a batch with VIN up to 416732 (last 6) and here`s the rub, if you end up with a secondhand instrument panel from a wrecked bike, there is NO way of telling which bike it will work with, without the donor bike`s VIN number.

Crafty play, by Triumph, methinks. They want you to pay $1650 for a new one, rather than get one from ebay for $250.

Orangeman · 12-06-2012, 07:29 AM

T3 racing offers a full display digital dash for the 08-12 Street Triple for half the price and it has more functions so they must have a way to match up the dash to the bike and make it work ?

http://shop.t3-racing.co.uk/t3hm-digital-dash-800-p.asp

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welshrob · 12-06-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Orangeman

T3 racing offers a full display digital dash for the 08-12 Street Triple for half the price and it has more functions so they must have a way to match up the dash to the bike and make it work ?

I`m sure they do.

The original Triumph ones, however, are locked to the VIN batches. If you would like to buy the one I have, which is only showing 4000km`s by the way, and you think you can make it it work, it is yours for $200 shipped to the USA. Not bad for a $1650 item.

At the moment, it is the world`s dearest door stop!