First post and I've got a problem...

[mglemans86]

Originally Posted by Tulkas

It does bring a question to mind though; what sort of spare parts do you guys suggest carrying on an extended road trip through sparsely populated areas? I've seen suggested on other threads in the forum that carrying an extra clutch and throttle cable is a good plan, and obviously things like fuses and relays don't take up much space and could be easily included. Assuming the bike's up-to-date with all major maintenance, what are some parts I should always have with me?

BTW, my list already includes important parts like a box of rubbers.

I wear waterproof boots rather than carrying rubbers

Good point about the relays. Are they standard auto shop parts or expensive Triumph parts?

[FFMedic]

This is a great question, as I'm purchasing mine in Colorado on Tuesday and riding it back to Chicago.

On my old bike, I would carry a small compliment of tools, including a multi-tool. I would also carry several common fuses found throughout the bike. If this relay issue is common, I would certainly carry some. I'm assuming it was a Triumph-specific part? If not, I'm going to need to load up on a few of those evidently.

Oh, and my rubbers are already packed. I like where your head's at.

[oldndumb]

What parameters are you guys using to declare a 'relay problem'?

[oldndumb]

Originally Posted by mglemans86

Good point about the relays. Are they standard auto shop parts or expensive Triumph parts?

Four of the relays are the same and might be std designs readily available.
Not to imply agreement that it was a good point about the relays, if they are not std you could probably cross reference them to an aftermarket brand if you could find a store with the necessary catalogs. And if you managed to do that, you would have to place them on order, and you may or may not be able to do that depending on if they even carry them in their system.

The 05-06 uses 6 relays. I assume the 07-08 is the same, but I do not have info on them. The starter relay, fan relay, fuel pump relay, and EMS relay are the same and sell for around $25US each. The change over relay goes for $12, and the turn signal relay is $53.

For comparison, a standard 'Bosch' relay goes for around $5.

[Haddi-Man]

Originally Posted by mglemans86

I wear waterproof boots rather than carrying rubbers

Different kind of protection, methinks.

Unless you meant you wear them on your *ahem*... In which case, I bow to you, sir.

[ventur4th]

Tulkas - glad you have solved your problem. Interesting that when my fuel pump relay quit, the symptoms were different than yours...
I attributed the relay failure to the decomposition of the rubber relay holder allowing the relay to rattle and bounce causing premature failure.
The relay is manufactured by Hella. I was unable to cross reference a perfect match online. A local parts house did supply me with a similar part, but until I have time to disect it and ensure that it is identical I will continue to use an OEM relay that costs 5X more.
As the sprint uses four of these, I did purchase a spare to carry along with me.
If anyone can cross refference a quality Bosch relay please post up!

[ventur4th]

The OEM relay has the following numbers on it:
01RA001
42A940010-71
Note that the OEM Hella relay may have a diode as indicated by the schematic on the side of the relay.

OnD, being electricaly challenged, I define the parameters of relay failure as the relay cicuit being energized but failing to complete the cicuit as intended. In other words - it no longer works.

[Bonnevillet140v]

Willst on the subject of "Rubber goods" as we appear to be, I have heard of other Sprint failures being attributed to the poor quality of the rubber components such as the relay holder & others. I recently changed the boot on the rear brake switch on my 01 ST & it was falling to pieces. The similar rubber components on my 73 Bonneville seemed to be of much better quality. ! ? Have Triumph ever been chalenged on this issue?
Chris

[oldndumb]

Originally Posted by ventur4th

The OEM relay has the following numbers on it:
01RA001
42A940010-71
Note that the OEM Hella relay may have a diode as indicated by the schematic on the side of the relay.

OnD, being electricaly challenged, I define the parameters of relay failure as the relay cicuit being energized but failing to complete the cicuit as intended. In other words - it no longer works.

Spot on about the diode(s).

My question was obviously not directed to the failure mode. It was more to the frequency of the event.

It was asking what parameters are being used to declare a "relay problem". In other words, how many posters need to mention a component failure for it to become a problem? I was just trying to point out that a few relay failures do not constitute a "problem" otherwise every vehicle on the road using electro-mechanical relays has the same "problem".

[Chillerguy]

Why the Diode? We use as 24VDC relay on some of the equipment where I work and it has always been my understanding that the only reason the diode was there was to make sure the polarity was correct. If so, why would you need one one an OEM application, and if not, what is it doing?