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Old 01-30-2008   #1 (permalink)
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How to Lift an 05-08 ST

I searched the Forum, but didn't find anything on how best to lift the bike for tire changes, etc. I haven't gotten thru the whole owners manual yet, so it might be in there.

Obviously the center stand will get the rear end off the ground, but looking at the bike, I can't see where to get a jack under the belly to lift the front without taking the fairings off (which may be the answer).

Hopefully some of you guys have come up with a good method.
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! You guessed right, safest easiest method is to take off the fairings.

I've seen the back wheel off without the bike being hoisted but the front is a bit more complicated, due to the wieght being forward on the center stand the bike has to be hoisted by the forks to allow for a front tire change, and the safest method is the removal both side fairings.

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thanks for the feedback Kory. How easy/difficult is it to pull the fairings? any tricks?
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I've always used the centerstand for everything


For the front end, you can use tie down straps to the ceiling of the garage to support the front, or a strap to some weight behind the bike might work
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where do you put the strap to hang the front? Handlebars? Headstock?
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I haven't had to do the Sprint yet, but on previous bikes I used the handle bars. You could loop one around the top triple clamp too.

It's not like it needs to support all that much weight. Anyplace solid would work

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I agree. Taking off the fairings is a bit extreme just to get the front wheel off the ground. I have'nt had to change the front tire yet but when I do, I plan on either putting weight in my tail bag (or panniers) or put a strap on one of the rails down to a floor anchor in my garage. If you don't have a floor anchor then just hang a little weight from the strap.

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I can have your fairings off in under 5 mins. I would highly recommend buying the service manual I've learned so much about my sprint just from tinkering while reading the manual.

Best place to hold the bike up from is the headstock, I don't recommend suspending the bike from the bars themselves, thats alot of pull-wieght on tubular steel that wasn't designed for that purpose. The headstock / triple trees mount directly to the frame, its a safer bet.

If you happen to have access to a engine pulling device ( for automobiles ) engine winch? i think its called you can use that and some trusty straps you know are rated for at least 1000lbs and hoist the front end of the bike up with that.

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I have used saw-horses with a 4x4 across them to hang a snowmobile before, I could do that and hang the top triple-tree from a strap. I'm not sure what's quicker, to set all of this up, or pull the fairings.
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thanks for the feedback Kory. How easy/difficult is it to pull the fairings? any tricks?
The newer bikes are probably way different than my 99 st, but, here's how I take mine off.

Start with the black pieces behind the front tire that help funnel air through the oil cooler and radiator; they're kinda a pain to finagle out, but, take them off first.

Next comes the large upper-side panels; take both sides off, and take every dang screw you can find, OUT. What I discovered is, if you're having pull to take a fairing off, you haven't gotten all the screws out, and you'll break something if you keep man-handling them. When all the screws are out for one piece, mine easily come off with very little help; if I didn't have the frame sliders on mine, I feel sure mine would just fall right off after the last screw comes out.

The top fairings overlap the bottom pieces, so, you have to take the top side pieces off first.

Now the bottom pieces off; again, make sure you get all the screws.

*NOTE* There is a "hidden" screw on the front bottom of the cone the two lowers form; make sure you take it out, otherwise you'll break the tab off like some idgit did on mine before I bought it.

*OPTIONAL*
Next comes the cockpit cover. To jack up the bike, or do any work on the lower or back of the bike, I don't think you'll need to remove it, but, I sometimes do just to prevent scratches. You'll need to remove the mirrors; pull the rubber boots off the fairing, and you'll see two bolts per mirror; remove those, and the mirrors fall off. I think you also need to remove the windshield; if memory serves me right, there are 2 screws that go into the bracket that holds the cockpit fairing onto the bike. I might be completely wrong on that part, but, I always take them off just so I don't scratch my windshield as I'm removing the cockpit fairings. Don't forget the two trim pieces on the inside of the cockpit just below the windshield on either side.


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Remember, fairings are either connected to the bike, or to another fairing, so, be sure to scope out the seams and take out screws on either side of the seams of the fairings, cause one of em might be holding on to the one you're trying to get off.

One thing I tried out last week that seemed to help tremendously, is the purchase of 2 farely cheap tools.

A handheld straight body cordless screwdriver from walmart that plugs right onto the wall socket for charging. It's still powerful enough to twist things up too much, but, if you're careful with it, it saves you from having to dig out a wratchet, extension, and bit for removing, and, it seems a lot faster for removing all the screws. Be careful with it putting the plastics back on; like I said, even the el-cheapo cordless screwdrivers have enough torque to tear stuff up. But, I found it equally handy when putting them back on, because I seemed to be able to hold the fairing in place easier while tightening the screws.

Another useful tool was one I picked up at sears. It looks like about 6 quarters stacked on each other, and it has openings on either side to accept bits. Basicly it's just a nice short finger turning tool to use to take out the screws from the few places where a wratchet or cordless screwdriver can't fit.

I picked up both tools for under $20, and the first time I used them, they were WELL worth the money.

This is probably more info than you wanted for removing the fairings, but, I've probably had mine off and on about 5-6 times in the last 2 months. I just don't like leaving them off on the floor to get stepped on if I'm not coming back to the bike for a day or two.

In my opinion, as expensive as the plastics are, it's well worth the extra time to take them off carefully and gently. And, if you're going to be doing any wrenching on the bike, that doesn't require taking the plastics off, it's well advised to cover them with something to avoid a belt buckle or slippery tool from accidentally scratching them. Murphy has a habit of helping me wrench on my bike, and the more prevention I can add to my work, the less he can bugger up.
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