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Old 12-22-2007   #1 (permalink)
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select a torque wrench for XMAS. Can anyone recommend a decent torque wrench for a shadetree tinkerer. Not lookin to open a shop..........Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.
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I would go with the 'beam type' torque wrench over the 'click type'. The 'beam type' has a metal bar the points to the torque figure as you tighten the fastener. Low tech, yes but it's also accurate. The problem with the other 'click type' (Craftsman) is it goes out of calibration and Sears charges about the price of the wrench itself to calibrate it. Snap-On makes one that's really trick- it vibrates like your cell phone when it reaches the required torque. I think it's self-calibrating and if you have to ask how much it costs then it's too expensive. So unless you're torquing down a V-8 head (lots of bolts) then I'd go with two 'beam types', one with a 3/8" drive and one with a 1/2" drive for wider range.
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Remember that the Sprint is English and all torques are in the Metric system, Nm, so one with dual scales makes it much easier. I bought one from Home depot that seems to work good and has foot lbs and Nm. PhxMan
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Forget the beam type torque wrench and get a "click type" wrench(s).

The beam type is the simplest and the cheapest but it has limitations. It reads the actual torque being applied but has no provision to prevent over-torquing, and that is why you use a torque wrench. Most fastener/component failures are cause by over-torquing, not under-torquing. The other problem with the beam type is that you must be positioned directly over the scale and pointer to get an accurate reading. It is very doubtful that you will find a serious technican using one on expensive/sensitive equipment.

The "click" type is actually a breakaway wrench and is preferred because the internal mechanism breaks away (becomes disjointed) at the set torque value. When you set the vernier cuff to a torque setting it compresses a calibrated spring which lets the handle either stay locked or "break" at the pre set torque. This action prevents over-torquing.

The key to using a "click" type wrench is proper use and storage.

Always exercise the internal mechanism before use and before storage. You can do this by using the wrench on a bolt securely held in a vise. Do it for the bottom, mid, and highest setting. That ensures that the spring mechanism is properly lubricated. Using the wrench properly means that you must apply smooth and steady pressure on the handle portion of the wrench. Do not jerk it or you will over-torque the fastener.

Proper storage of a torque wrench means setting the vernier cuff to the lowest setting after exercising it, and then storing the wrench in the box/container it came in.

My experience has been that they rarely go out of calibration with proper use and storage.

My suggestion is to study the torque values for your particular bike and then buy the wrench(es) from the store of you choice. You will probably need to buy at least two of them to cover all of the required torques. One item to consider is that most wrenches are not accurate in within the bottom and top 10 percent of their range.

A lot of people laugh at Harbor Freight tools. Some of their stuff is junk while other items will suffice for the hobbyist or do it yourselfer. I have bought Harbor Freight torque wrenches and checked them on a torque analyzer and they were within specification.

If you do have a torque wrench that requires calibration, look in the yellow pages for a lab in your area. The fee is not very high. Just don't take it to Sears for calibration.

Once you get a new torque wrench, resist the urge to check the torque on a couple of fasteners. All you are doing, when you do that, is over-torquing those particuar fasteners. The correct method to verify torque on a previously torqued fastener is to loosen it (not with the torque wrench) and re-torque it.
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Another thing about beam wrenches is that if you are torquing something while at a slightly odd angle or where you don't have great leverage, your hand or elbow may shake a bit giving you an inaccurate reading (again assuming you can even see the meter.) This would be particularly bad news for any part where there are multiple bolts torqued in sequence and you could end up with uneven torque applied to a part; this is how head gaskets get blown often.

I have three torque wrenches. Two Ft lb/Nm (one 1/2" drive and one 3/8" drive) and one smaller one in inch lbs. Yeah they set me back a few $ (although I didn't buy them all at once) but they've more than paid for themselves in repairs that could have been done at a shop. One to two saved shop repairs and the wrench is paid for.
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Forget the beam type torque wrench and get a "click type" wrench(s).

The beam type is the simplest and the cheapest but it has limitations. It reads the actual torque being applied but has no provision to prevent over-torquing, and that is why you use a torque wrench. Most fastener/component failures are cause by over-torquing, not under-torquing. The other problem with the beam type is that you must be positioned directly over the scale and pointer to get an accurate reading. It is very doubtful that you will find a serious technican using one on expensive/sensitive equipment.

The "click" type is actually a breakaway wrench and is preferred because the internal mechanism breaks away (becomes disjointed) at the set torque value. When you set the vernier cuff to a torque setting it compresses a calibrated spring which lets the handle either stay locked or "break" at the pre set torque. This action prevents over-torquing.

The key to using a "click" type wrench is proper use and storage.

Always exercise the internal mechanism before use and before storage. You can do this by using the wrench on a bolt securely held in a vise. Do it for the bottom, mid, and highest setting. That ensures that the spring mechanism is properly lubricated. Using the wrench properly means that you must apply smooth and steady pressure on the handle portion of the wrench. Do not jerk it or you will over-torque the fastener.

Proper storage of a torque wrench means setting the vernier cuff to the lowest setting after exercising it, and then storing the wrench in the box/container it came in.

My experience has been that they rarely go out of calibration with proper use and storage.

My suggestion is to study the torque values for your particular bike and then buy the wrench(es) from the store of you choice. You will probably need to buy at least two of them to cover all of the required torques. One item to consider is that most wrenches are not accurate in within the bottom and top 10 percent of their range.

A lot of people laugh at Harbor Freight tools. Some of their stuff is junk while other items will suffice for the hobbyist or do it yourselfer. I have bought Harbor Freight torque wrenches and checked them on a torque analyzer and they were within specification.

If you do have a torque wrench that requires calibration, look in the yellow pages for a lab in your area. The fee is not very high. Just don't take it to Sears for calibration.

Once you get a new torque wrench, resist the urge to check the torque on a couple of fasteners. All you are doing, when you do that, is over-torquing those particuar fasteners. The correct method to verify torque on a previously torqued fastener is to loosen it (not with the torque wrench) and re-torque it.
+1 on everything OnD said. When I was in aircraft maintenance, we used the click type torque wrenches. The only reason (that I recall) we took them to the lab to get re calibrated was because we had a regular schedule for recalibration. I'm a big believer in the click type and wouldn't go with any other type. Just my 2 cents.
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On the same topic anyone heard of / seen a mini torque wrench for the smaller stuff on our bikes that only requires 10-20 nm of torque? I would hate to use a massive 14" torque wrench on a small nut / allen screw that requires 10-30nm

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Tattoo, I bought one from Granger with a dial indicator and tell-tale on it. Couldn't find a clicker type that went that low at the time. PhxMan
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On the same topic anyone heard of / seen a mini torque wrench for the smaller stuff on our bikes that only requires 10-20 nm of torque? I would hate to use a massive 14" torque wrench on a small nut / allen screw that requires 10-30nm

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Kory,

Again, going back to my aircraft maintenance days, we had a torque adapter that went on the end of our speed wrench. It wasn't adjustable though. I've also seen screwdriver type torque wrenches. I'm looking for one of these myself.
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Harbor Freight has a 1/4" drive with a range of 20 to 180 Inlb.
That calculates to a usable range of 36 to 164 Inlb. That will cover 4 Nm to 18 Nm.
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