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Old 12-05-2012, 04:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Staked Nut 955

Hi,
Following my enquiry to the local dealer to find that they want $61.62 for this nut I did some reading to find if I could source this nut elsewhere.

Reading a post by Pushrod about the possibility of the staked nut off a Honda Hawk NT650 P/N 90306-MN8-000 fitting. So I did some more reading and decided to order one from US, total including shipping was $16.93.

Now the nut is exactly the same and it does screw on the small amount of thread on the axle with the existing nut still in place, so I am quite confident this nut fits.

The only problem is that the nut is 1mm thinner than the original and I don't think there will be enough of the nut protruding from the recess in the hub to get a socket onto.

My question is would you use a packing washer (1mm ) between the belleville washer and the stepped washer?

Will 1mm less thickness on the nut be an issue?

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Old 12-05-2012, 04:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks Banjaxxed,
By the time I get it freighted to Oz I am paying about the same, I really don't need the other nut and spring.

I was just looking for a cheaper option. $62 for a nut is a joke.

Will the nut I have be suitable, with a packer?
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Dan, what is the specified torque for the Hawk application? I'm a bit concerned whether the thinner nut has enough thread contact for the 135N/M (IIRC) our bikes require. if the Hawk also requires the same torque, I'd say a spacer would be all you need. Or, replace the existing one with another of sufficient thickness.
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Hi Pushrod,

The specified torque for the honda is 120 N/M
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It's damaged on initial installation; that's what the "staked"part is.

That said, I've had mine off probably three or four times without replacing it. I would kind of like to do so next time, though I've also considered drilling for a cotter pin.

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I have also found that the VFR 750 & 800 SSS uses a 35mm id locknut so I have ordered one of those from Honda for $14. Sylvester is going to measure the depth of the nut on his VFR so hopefully this nut can be used.
I just think there has got to be an alternative.
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Hi All,

Just a bit of an update to my endeavour to find an alternative nut. (when I looked in the mirror I found what I was looking for)

On a more serious note both the Honda Hawk NT650 P/N 90306-MN8-000 and
Honda VFR 800 P/N 90306-MZ7-000
are the same nut.
Both these nuts are 1mm thinner than the Triumph nut. My concern was the torque on the NT650 was less than what we have on the triumph, so with a bit more research I found that the torque on the VFR was 201NM, which eliminated any torque capability fears

I went to my local bearing shop and purchased a couple of 1mm thrust washers, that I fit between the belleville and stepped washer and staked the nut.

I have done just over a thousand K's so far and all is good, so this is an alternative for those that are interested. I will update as time goes on.
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Sweet!

Good to know, Dan!
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I have also found that the VFR 750 & 800 SSS uses a 35mm id locknut so I have ordered one of those from Honda for $14. Sylvester is going to measure the depth of the nut on his VFR so hopefully this nut can be used.
I just think there has got to be an alternative.
So if it is 35mm ID is it the same as the Triumph 46mm OD? on the 06 and the like?
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So if it is 35mm ID is it the same as the Triumph 46mm OD? on the 06 and the like?
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Hi Vitesse,

Yes the nut is a 46mm hex with stake ( basically exactly the same) the exception is that it is 1mm thinner than the Triumph nut, viewed from side on, if that makes any sense.

That is why I used a couple of washers to pack the nut out from the recessed hub otherwise you would not be able to get a socket onto it.

My bike is 01, not sure if 06 uses the same size axle

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