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Old 11-26-2012, 03:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Perhaps you get different foams and dishwashing liquids over there. The soft foams we get here are generally expanded polyurethane or latex and not water soluble. The dishwashing liquid I use is a liquid soap; it does not list sodium chloride amongst its ingredients nor does it contain any abrasive that can be felt.

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Old 11-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I put a drop or two of Dawn on a wet facecloth and it works well enough.
Works for me, plus if you just buff the Dawn foam before it dries, it keeps visor from fogging as much. Breaks up grease and water droplets.

Salt in dishwashing liquid?? You mean this?

Alcohol Ethoxysulfate,
sodium saltSodium Laureth
Sulfate
68585-34-2
10-30% total
anionic
surfactant
LD50 (oral, rat) - >2g/kg
Alcohol Sulfates, sodium
salt
Sodium Lauryl
Sulfate


When they list as a sodium salt, they aren't talking about Sodium Choride (table salt) they are talking about the alcohol salt form of a surfactant. Could just as well have been a calcium lauryl sulfate. Not abrasive, in fact just REAL slippery. I'm a pharmacist, and VERY few drugs are not salt forms of something- many sodium or HCl (hydrochloric acid...how 'bout that for caustic?), but none have sodium chloride in them, that I know of except, well sodium chloride. salt tablets.
That is why it is important to take drugs with liquid- water is best. You want them to seperate into ions so they can be absorbed.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Maybe but it tastes a lot better with salt (NaCl)
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I use that no-longer-honda-branded cycle clean spray crap that I do the bike with. Melts bugs in a few minutes and leaves a nice coating that makes them come off even easier the next time.

Personally, I think the dude at Arai is blowing smoke. Use whatever you want. Those vents break all the time, anyway.
Actually, I think Honda picked that up again. I use it on my bike and helmet too. I also use lemon scented Pledge for the visor. Works great and smells good!
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Racerdave well I never! I've been told never to use washing liquids because of the salt content and the abrasive nature of said salt.
I stand corrected. wow the stuff we learn!

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Fairy washing up liquid says nothing comprehensible to me! But our ecover washing up liquid says amongst other things like citric acid, salt. Just that salt, so is that sodium chloride?

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Actually, I think Honda picked that up again. I use it on my bike and helmet too. I also use lemon scented Pledge for the visor. Works great and smells good!
I can never keep it straight - all I know is the stuff is worth all of the hype. I've even considered doing my whole car with it!
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Works for me, plus if you just buff the Dawn foam before it dries, it keeps visor from fogging as much. Breaks up grease and water droplets.

Salt in dishwashing liquid?? You mean this?
Sorry Im a bit dim and confused?
Are you saying "washing up liquid good/ok for paintwork" etc now?
For years Ive been reading touched with the devils stick in regard to paintwork. Be nice to know from someone in the know that it was just an old wifes tale?
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Plexus here also - The stuff is great for helmet as well as wind screen and headlamps plastic
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Good old White board cleaner been using it for 15 years, and it's free, a work perk hehe
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