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11-18-2012, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickea
Its weird how people forget where "slipstones" started and always start comparing "cheap" tyres to premium sports tyres.
Tyres are, and always will be a compromise between price, performance and wear and you pays your money and make your informed choice, adapting your riding style to suit your tyre or your budget to satisfy your need?
Always good to have another tyre thread!
Rubber side down all Mick.
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Who is forgetting that Mick?
I agree competely about the compromise comment though  you get what you pay for.
Dean I also concur with your Pilot Road 3 comments. I have a review spanning about 3-4 posts in the tyre sticky in the m,t &t subforum.
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11-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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Who is forgetting that Mick?
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Non specific generalisation, no offence meant or intended.
But even established tyre manufacturers have had issues with some the stuff they have produced.
Just to add in the debate in comparing Maxis to other quality sports touring tyres?
Rubber side down
Mick
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11-18-2012, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickea
Non specific generalisation, no offence meant or intended.
But even established tyre manufacturers have had issues with some the stuff they have produced.
Just to add in the debate in comparing Maxis to other quality sports touring tyres?
Rubber side down
Mick
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Mick no offence taken but what tyres do you think a mass produced sports touring tyre should be compared with then?
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11-18-2012, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickea
Its weird how people forget where "slipstones" started and always start comparing "cheap" tyres to premium sports tyres.
Tyres are, and always will be a compromise between price, performance and wear and you pays your money and make your informed choice, adapting your riding style to suit your tyre or your budget to satisfy your need?
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Mickea,
The magazine tire test that I refered to in my first post was strickly a sport tire test. So the Chinese tire that came in last, by a large margin, was being tested with its peer group. In other words, it is a sport tire that does not measure up no matter what the price. I'm sure it is fine for a quiet Sunday meander, but it is not what it is represented as by the manufacturer.
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11-18-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vitesse
I had the trials tyres on an TR5T and they were fine but that was 38 BHP and 80 mph max.. If you are looking for cheap Shinko has some good reviews on Youtube.
Cycle gear has a sale on Bridgestones the set is $199.
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I just replaced my rear tire on my sprint went with another Shinko Raven 009 . My last one was down to the wear indicators after 10,500 miles of commuting to work. Less than $100 from rockymountain .
DT
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11-18-2012, 10:51 PM
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Eh... Lots of things I'd cheap out before a set of tires. I saved by getting the PR2s instead of the PR3s. I think it was about $50 less for the pair and all I gave up on was some wet grip, but the PR3s are the only tire out there better than the PR2s that I'm aware of (never had any issues in the wet).
I'm not saying they're junk, but I'd always have a little worry in the back of mind if I started to push them any. Possibly unfounded, but it'd be there none the less.
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11-19-2012, 02:47 AM
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All tyre manufacturer's have had their issues.
Maxxis have done quite well in a few areas already (supermoto) and as for comparisons it comes back down to, again performance, price and longevity.
Trouble is you dont know how the tyre is going to perform on your bike with your riding style until its fitted.
This is the great thing about the forum at least we all get to get an idea of what a particular tyre might be like when we get them on.
Anyway, tyres can't please all of the people all of the time, but the same tyre isnt going keep Dtower and XL1200r et al happy or the bloke that was "going to the dark side" with his car tyre.
Good thing here is we dont get paid? for reviewing stuff or invited to nice launches so we should get the real info?
Cheap sports tyres for all
rgds Mick
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11-19-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by XL1200R
Eh... Lots of things I'd cheap out before a set of tires. I saved by getting the PR2s instead of the PR3s. I think it was about $50 less for the pair and all I gave up on was some wet grip, but the PR3s are the only tire out there better than the PR2s that I'm aware of (never had any issues in the wet).
I'm not saying they're junk, but I'd always have a little worry in the back of mind if I started to push them any. Possibly unfounded, but it'd be there none the less.
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Of all the tyres I have ever shod me ponies with the PR3s are the absolute best for feel grip wet/dry and looks.
This discussion is unlike an oil thread (please no!) it is proven without a doubt ,factoidal ,evidencial truth that some tyres are superior to others.
Though it may be a matter of economy for some my riding habits and road experience simply would not allow price to be the deciding factor in choosing a set of the one thing that connects and transmits the power of my machine to the surface I want to keep squarely under them.
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11-19-2012, 02:49 PM
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There comes a time that every motorcyclist faces. It's when you need more turn and more lean. Maybe to make it through a corner, maybe came in too hot, not familiar with a turn, an obstacle or other hazard in the road, avoid a dangerous situation - whatever. In those cases you have one choice: to trust your tires. There's not much trust riding on tires that tested at the bottom
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11-19-2012, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elevens
There comes a time that every motorcyclist faces. It's when you need more turn and more lean. Maybe to make it through a corner, maybe came in too hot, not familiar with a turn, an obstacle or other hazard in the road, avoid a dangerous situation - whatever. In those cases you have one choice: to trust your tires. There's not much trust riding on tires that tested at the bottom 
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Totally agree with that, but, have been in the position of doing loads of miles a week with a bag on my back and very reluctantly having to go for the "long miles" tyres and having to ride accordingly. Very horrible knowing you don't have the the grip you could have had however needs $wallet was a must.
BTW I had to swop from Conti sport attacks to roads this year co I only got 2500ks from them.
rgds mick
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