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11-15-2012, 03:18 PM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 06' Sprint ST 1050 ABS
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Rio Rancho, NM......USA
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the rails is not hollow it's solid where it broke, but i think your idea of reinforcing it with a pin is a good idea , the way the rail is designed even when it was broken it supported the case no problem as its bolted top and bottom.
btw on my way to school today i noticed how much of my confidence in the bike is gone, i ride it like im a 100 yr old riding a scooter, it's that bad
also Trade_nancy i did think of adding a strip of white here and there but im no painter so we will see how it turns out.
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11-15-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ST-Bandit
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Sorry about your crash. I wouldn't get aggravated about the swoosh. They have tiny little plastic pins that hold them on, so they probably broke off. It would have been a huge pain to try and refit it without them or try and find something to use as new pins.
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11-15-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ST-Bandit
btw on my way to school today i noticed how much of my confidence in the bike is gone, i ride it like im a 100 yr old riding a scooter, it's that bad
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Don't worry too much about that. It happens.
When I've had an off, it totally upsets my confidence and feel for the bike. My "survival reactions" start coming on way early, and I have to re-establish all my limits again. It's a real pain, but I guess it's normal. Even a simple drop in the driveway gets me out of shape. Hopefully, I'm worse about it than most people.
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11-25-2012, 08:30 PM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2006 ST
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Very sorry to hear. Hope you fared better.
Mark
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11-27-2012, 09:04 AM
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Powerbike Main Motorcycle: Sprint ST 2007 ABS
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Sorry about the off..
Make sure to check the tire pressure. It's totally possible that they jacked up the pressure to seat the bead, and forgot to drop it to proper levels.
Also, rather than taking sandpaper to the tire, give it a good wash, Just to make sure that any residual mounting lubricant is gone.
I've found that the best way to break in a new tire is to heat cycle it. For the front, that would mean heavy front braking, and for a rear you'd want to accelerate with gusto.
Contrary to popular belief, you can do this in a straight line. No need to be weaving about.
of course this is all moot now...
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11-27-2012, 10:01 PM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: '08 Sprint ST - Red
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Location: Cranbrook, B.C. Canada
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I try to scuff mine in at the dealership, in the parking lot, if I'm on the road, or in the cul de sac in front of my house, when I do them myself.
Slow figure 8's, gradually putting more omph on them until I've gotten over far enough to satisfy my concern factor. At 5-10 kmph, I have never had the tire slip. Then usually a series of weaves down the highway, in a straight line.
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11-27-2012, 10:44 PM
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Grand Prix 500 Main Motorcycle: 2011 Sprint GT
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Old school experts taught me to literally scrub a new tyre with warm soapy water and a brush - best with something like sugarsoap...
Then..take it for a a few snaking squirts and hardish brake pull ups on some gravel if such a road is available. I have a 60+ metre gravel driveway....
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11-28-2012, 05:18 AM
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All I do is do a short 60 km run up the local hills and associated windy road, I ride to the top and back again and the front and rear are scrubbed in.
I have never scrubbed any tyre with water, soap or anything else.
However cool climates require new tyres to be scrubbed in with a more careful approach.
Cheers
Dave
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11-28-2012, 10:44 AM
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 2007 Sprint ST
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Location: Rochester NY
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I think the new Dunlop RoadSmart II’s have less grip when new than any other tire I have ever mounted/used.
I am on my 3rd set of RoadSmart II’s – 3 and a half since I had to replace my rear tire due to puncture/gash.
I have used a minimum of 1 set each season for last 30+ years and do my own mount/balance so I know what has been used to aid getting tires on/off the rim and seating them.
I crashed 2 weeks ago with my freshly mounted RoadSmart II rear.
I stayed up late and mounted the rear so I could take the bike to work – we are running out of nice days in Upstate NY.
It was about 35deg and dark when I left for work.
I reminded myself that I had a new un-scrubbed rear tire so I needed to be extra careful.
I only made it to the end of my street before I threw my sprint down the road.
I stopped at end of my street. Looked left then right and pulled out and started my left turn onto the road.
Rear spun up so fast the bike was swapping ends before I could save it.
I could not believe the way the rear spun up so fast.
After picking up my bike I looked hard at road surface (lots of street lights) and even checked it in late afternoon – nothing but pretty clean asphalt.
Frame sliders saved me from major damage.
I really like the first gen RoadSmarts and really like the second gen – after they are scrubbed.
But its unbelievable how bad the gen II’s are when freshly mounted.
I agree with Trade_nancy – I will be soap up and scrub and rinse all future new mounts even if it is in the 30’s.
So at that point my last ride resulted in trailering my bike home and my next ride I crashed. Sucks.
My 07 is no longer virginal!
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11-28-2012, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoen
I think the new Dunlop RoadSmart II’s have less grip when new than any other tire I have ever mounted/used.
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I really like the first gen RoadSmarts and really like the second gen – after they are scrubbed.
But its unbelievable how bad the gen II’s are when freshly mounted.
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interesting to know as I find the Roadsmarts to be pretty good when new. Not ridden on the II yet but they'll probably be fitted when I wear out my current set.
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