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Old 11-03-2012, 04:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Nev

Congratulations on your new baby.

My experience agrees with every thing DaveM said.
Your GT will get better and better as it gets run in.
IMHO If Triumph had been smart enough to put premium tyres on the GT as OEM equipment and had a completely different marketing campaign and they would have sold themselves.
I believe your "excellent value for money" opinion will prove to be an understatement as these bikes age and the rest of the motorcycle community realises what they missed out on.
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Old 11-03-2012, 10:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Nev,

I have found that the only time I get a false neutral or hard shift is when I shift slowly. The GT gearbox seems to like fast, crisp shift movements. If I get lazy the gearbox lets me know.

As far as stalling, mine has never stalled unless I caused it in its first 9000 miles. Even on a cold New England morning, it has run fine from the get-go (cold is 20 F) with no problems at all, not like my 98 carbed Sprint, now that was cold-blooded. I start mine up after I have on all my gear, except gloves, then put on helmet and gloves and duck-walk it back out my driveway to the street, then just go. If you get stallling when starting up or at random times, take it back to the dealer and have them fix it, should not do that at all. In the meantime, you can do an ECU reset with no tools or special test gear. Start the bike cold and let it idle until the fan comes on. Do NOT touch the throttle or shut it off until the fan comes on.

As others have mentioned, good tires will make a phenomenal difference. I am partial to Pirelli Angels, but this topic is like religion. (pun intended) With luck, your front OEM will start to cup badly in 3-4 kmiles and then you will have an opportunity to find out how the GT feels with real tires.

PS- Just re-read your original post that you have not experienced these problems. I still stand by my opinion of how much better the GT will be when you put good tyres on it. (Got tyre spelled appropriately this time.)

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Old 11-06-2012, 05:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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NevD, coming from a 2007 Sprint ST, the GT is a big improvement and while the only issue I've experienced (that I had several times) is the idle (there were a few other issues that were the result of improper prep. by the dealer). But as has been mentioned, let her warm up a bit and no problems...at all. Shifting for me is the same as the ST, however the GT is breaking in much faster then my ST did and never a false neutral or shifting issue to speak of....which may have a great deal to do with the prior ownership of the ST.

I absolutely love the bike and agree that it's greatly under rated. Our gain their loss.....

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I had already heard about the OEM tires, so I had negotiated a new set of PR3's with the dealer when I bought her, so they've been on the bike since mile one and are GREAT!

And congratulations on your new ride....have fun breaking her in.....keep the shiny side up!
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi. It was interesting to read the perceived comments, and I can comment with authority on the handling issue. I had a 2011 GT and it handled like a drunk pig. Wouldn't turn would't change direction and followed the white lines in the road like they were God. The handling really was a struggle to get used too.
Then some as@hole in a crappy little car shot out of a side road without looking and wrote it off.
Have just picked up a 2012 GT and what a difference.
Handling is great and it does what its told too.
The difference is the tyres. The first bike had Dunlop roadsmarts, a brilliant tyre on my tiger 1050. The latest GT has Bridgestone Battlax BT021 or something like that. A vast improvement. Totally different to the performance seen on my Tiger.
Soooo. Not even the manufacturers always get it right.
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hi. It was interesting to read the perceived comments, and I can comment with authority on the handling issue. I had a 2011 GT and it handled like a drunk pig. Wouldn't turn would't change direction and followed the white lines in the road like they were God. The handling really was a struggle to get used too.
Then some as@hole in a crappy little car shot out of a side road without looking and wrote it off.
Have just picked up a 2012 GT and what a difference.
Handling is great and it does what its told too.
The difference is the tyres. The first bike had Dunlop roadsmarts, a brilliant tyre on my tiger 1050. The latest GT has Bridgestone Battlax BT021 or something like that. A vast improvement. Totally different to the performance seen on my Tiger.
Soooo. Not even the manufacturers always get it right.
THAT'S NOT HARD TO BELIEVE....AT ALL....GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE SO PLEASED WITH THE NEW 12-GT....GREAT BIKE...KEEP THE SHINY SIDE UP
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Nehpetsthegrey,
Now I have to laugh. Recently on another thread, there were some GT owners who vented their opinion/experience that the Bridgestone 021 were poor in the wet, wore unevenly (especially on the front which is not a dual compound like the rear), wore quickly, didn't handle well - yackity yack. One new GT owner worrried if he should remove the 021's before he started riding the bike because of what he was reading! Some said that the Dunlop Roadsmart was a heavenly tire (which many reviews laud)!

I also have the 021 on my GT and had it on my Kawasaki Concours 14 (GTR1400) which I replaced with 023's a few thousand miles later. I have had no problems with either tire, although the 023 is an improvement and has received excellent reviews. However, it's amusing how opinions and experiences vary.

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Old 11-09-2012, 06:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Note about tyres

It should be noted here that different tyres better suit some bikes than others, depending on weight, balance etc.

Personally I do not think the Bridgestone Battlax sport touring tyres are best suited to sporty riding on the Sprint range of bikes.
I am certainly not alone and in this opinion as it has been a common opinion amongst riders and owners here since I joined in 2005.

This started with the BT 057 years ago and more currently the BT 021 which came as OEM on my 2011 Sprint GT. Not having used the BT 023 I will not comment on that.

The main issues numerous owners have complained about and even some Triumph staff at dealerships are this for the BT 021 and predecessor BT 020 and before that the BT 057:

1) Front tyres prone to early and in many cases (depending on riding style) severe cupping that affects handling and grip. Note all tyres cup to a certain extent but these on a Sprint seems worse than most other tyres you will fit.

2) Less confidence inspiring grip than most other tyres in wet conditions or where the road surface offers less than perfect grip.

There have been numerous tyre reports and threads in this forum on this subject and the vast majority all state points one and 2 as the major gripes with the Sprint OEM tyre fitment.

These are reports and reviews from owners over many thousands of miles / kilometers and also over a span of several years and models

It is not a new discovery by any means.


Most tests over the last few years about wet conditions havce showed the Michelin Pilot Road 2 and 3 superior to others in the wet usually closely followed for good wet grip by the Dunlop Roadsmart.

These three above tyres offer great handling and grip in all conditions, but are certainly not the only choices as most tyres these days offer great performance just some are better than others.

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Old 11-10-2012, 09:08 AM   #18 (permalink)
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That's why they called cycle magazines "cycle rags"!! Triumphs almost always get negative reviews. Been that way clear back to the 60's, as I remember.

An example was my 2004 ST Sprint I bought. In 2003, the ST was "motorcycle of the year". In 2004, it came in LAST place in a 10-bike shootout. Down there with the HOG!!

I did not believe this, so I bought the 04 ST. My wife rode it a while. I rode it. Now, at over 65,000 miles, my son is still riding it!!

The only issues I agreed with on the GT the cycle rags talk about is the tach and speedo. They got these BACKWARDS!! I would much rather have the speedo in the center and BIGGER!! If you think about it, a tach is of no value anyway. Just a toy to look at!!
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:52 AM   #19 (permalink)
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on the topic of tires... I've ran battle axes on my ZX14 and they worked out great. But, on the GT, the ones that came on it BT021, just feel weird. I just looked it up and I think I was running the BT-023 on my ZX. The BT021's description say it's made more for "touring-oriented riders" and give a "luxury feel". Which translates to, "great if you are doing all highway".
I think I'm gonna swap my tires out pretty soon. Kills me to swap out tires this new but it does look like they are the same tire size for my dad's FJR. I think he runs the BT021 without complaints, but it's a heavier bike. Maybe I'll ship them out to him.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:26 PM   #20 (permalink)
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on the topic of tires... I've ran battle axes on my ZX14 and they worked out great. But, on the GT, the ones that came on it BT021, just feel weird. I just looked it up and I think I was running the BT-023 on my ZX. The BT021's description say it's made more for "touring-oriented riders" and give a "luxury feel". Which translates to, "great if you are doing all highway".
I think I'm gonna swap my tires out pretty soon. Kills me to swap out tires this new but it does look like they are the same tire size for my dad's FJR. I think he runs the BT021 without complaints, but it's a heavier bike. Maybe I'll ship them out to him.
That is exactly my point about these tyres they just do not seem to suit the Sprint well.
And they never have, it probably one of the most common threads and complaints here since I joined in early 2005.

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