Triumphrat

TheEnglishGuy · 07-10-2012, 10:19 PM

This seems like the simplest of inventions. Not sure why it's not been done before and comes as standard? Maybe I'm missing something technical? Anyway, if not, here it is for the good of humanity...

A simple timer. If the key has been on, with the engine off, for greater than five minutes, it disconnects the ignition until the key is turned back to off to reset it. After that, you can turn it on again, just fine.

If you really want, add an override switch, add a buzzer that warns you, whatever works.

Can you tell I'm painfully forgetful when it comes to taking the keys out of the bike and tired of recharging/replacing batteries?

MotoMitten · 07-10-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEnglishGuy

This seems like the simplest of inventions. Not sure why it's not been done before and comes as standard? Maybe I'm missing something technical? Anyway, if not, here it is for the good of humanity...

A simple timer. If the key has been on, with the engine off, for greater than five minutes, it disconnects the ignition until the key is turned back to off to reset it. After that, you can turn it on again, just fine.

If you really want, add an override switch, add a buzzer that warns you, whatever works.

Can you tell I'm painfully forgetful when it comes to taking the keys out of the bike and tired of recharging/replacing batteries?

Maybe you could modify a turbo timer for a car. Wire it to the constant on the ignition. It would leave the bike on for a preset time after you switch the kill switch and then it would kill the ignition.

triumphpat · 07-10-2012, 11:52 PM

Did the same myself. Now I turn the bike off with the key rather than kill switch. I hit the kill switch afterwards as well which is redundant but old habits die hard.

cheers

Lee H · 07-11-2012, 12:32 AM

I turned mine off with the kill switch, and left the key/lights on all day, just yesterday. Luckily the battery charger has a jump start function.

I am switching mine over to an RFID system. I will have a chip in the top of my boot. When I move more than 10 feet away from the bike, the main power will turn off. Then turn back on when I walk within 10 feet of the bike.
I have been playing with the idea for a while, and am trying to get all my vehicle door locks and main power operations to all work with the same RFID chip

TxTrumpet · 07-11-2012, 01:19 AM

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Did the same myself. Now I turn the bike off with the key rather than kill switch. I hit the kill switch afterwards as well which is redundant but old habits die hard.

hehehe - i thought i was the only one that did that!

DP-WU · 07-11-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee H

I turned mine off with the kill switch, and left the key/lights on all day, just yesterday. Luckily the battery charger has a jump start function.

I am switching mine over to an RFID system. I will have a chip in the top of my boot. When I move more than 10 feet away from the bike, the main power will turn off. Then turn back on when I walk within 10 feet of the bike.
I have been playing with the idea for a while, and am trying to get all my vehicle door locks and main power operations to all work with the same RFID chip

This sounds extremely awesome. Please post details if/when you make this happen...

Pixel · 07-11-2012, 09:35 AM

For reasons previously unknown (this is probably why), my 09 ST owners manual states that the bike is to be turned off with the ignition key and that the kill button is for "emergencies only". Anyway, I read that when I bought the bike and got in the habit. So far so good...

Lee H · 07-11-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DP-WU

This sounds extremely awesome. Please post details if/when you make this happen...

Kits are available, now, to interrupt the starter, so it will not engage without a key fob being in close proximity. This is part of the security system on Harleys, and it is an aftermarket accessory for Victories.
It takes a little creative wiring, but this can be adapted to trigger a main ignition relay on any 12V negative ground bike or automobile

after you have one setup, it is not all that difficult to get numerous readers to accept the same frequency chip.

I have a working unit for a motorcycle. I was going to use it on my 71, and not even have a key switch on the bike... maybe I should have had it on my daily rider

Raynewb · 07-11-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pixel

For reasons previously unknown (this is probably why), my 09 ST owners manual states that the bike is to be turned off with the ignition key and that the kill button is for "emergencies only". Anyway, I read that when I bought the bike and got in the habit. So far so good...

I thought it was common knowledge the kill switch was supposed to be an emergency shut off. Over here it is not recommended to use as an engine cut out.

DaveM · 07-11-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raynewb

I thought it was common knowledge the kill switch was supposed to be an emergency shut off. Over here it is not recommended to use as an engine cut out.

That is correct Ray but my experience here over several years is that the rider training courses in the US teach riders to use the kill switch. Why is beyond me.

By design it is an "Emergency" cut off in case of accident.

I have been riding street legal for close to 40 years and have always used my key to switch off and I cannot ever remember leaving the ignition turned On or powered up in all that time.

I think like anything for us if we are in a habit of doing something it will or will not be an issue depending on your "habit".