Triumphrat

fredsprint · 11-07-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulF

go ahead. I think the next size smaller would have been spot on for me. It is a great screen. Maybe I can cut it down ...

Yes, I would say it's the same shape but 10cm longer in every direction. But better be sure about what you do and use the right tool not to brake it.

There's also orientable flaps that are made by different companies.

Fred

fredsprint · 11-08-2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulF

go ahead. I think the next size smaller would have been spot on for me. It is a great screen. Maybe I can cut it down ...

Paul,

I got an answer from John (eaglescreens) regarding you experience w/ the 680mm one. Here it is:

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Originally Posted by John(ESA)

That's all a bit of a surprise really. However it confirms what I have said for many years, that every rider is different and what works for one may not work for another. The way you set up your bike also has a lot to do with it and we are not always made privy to how customers set their bikes up etc.

Only yesterday we had a Multistrada owner in here (he’s trialling a new Wind Deflector we’re helping to develop) who confirmed that with his Top Box on, he has a much more turbulent ride than with it off. The difference was quite remarkable in his words, something we advised him about earlier in the week. Perhaps more questions about how that rider has his bike set up with Top Boxes, Helmets, Panniers, Pillions etc would help us you to understand the dynamics of it all a bit more.

Sorry if this adds to your confusion, but, it is not an exacting science despite what some manufacturers say.

Ive had no other feedback positive or negative that I can recall.

By the way, tell Paul that , yes, he can cut that Ultra Touring screen down and if he’d like to contact us, we’re happy to give him a bit of guidance.

Also you could mention for him to trail the screen with or without the Tank Bag and to see if that affects its performance a little. Ide be interested in the result.

regards
John
ESA

PaulF · 11-08-2012, 01:53 PM

Thanks Fred. I'll follow up and contact them if I do move forward with cutting the screen down. Paul

fredsprint · 02-12-2013, 05:57 AM

Well, I just received my ultra touring eaglescreens 680 mm screen.

I must say I am a bit disappointed by the finish. Doesn't fit really well. The cut out on the left isn't right so I will be forced to fix it. The front/rear curve isn't quite right too so it apply constraints on the cockpit and doesn't apply very well above the headlight. And the cutout isn't symmetrical.
Being located at the opposite side of the planet, I won't send it back. The shipping price was enormous too.

I would say it doesn't look a very professional product. Am I too sharp here?
OK, once fitted it seems minor details, but...

Regarding the huge price I would have expected a perfect product "hand carved".

First trial this morning:
It causes a loud noise even at low speed 'cause it concentrates the flow right on the helmet.
I have hight bars (remember) but changing my position doesn't change anything.
So I'll try something similar to laminar lips on the top of it and keep you updated.

Didn't try it yet at hight speed but don't see any reason why it would be any better.
BTW I am 1m78 (5'10").

So for now it's a NO GO.

Fred

XL1200R · 02-12-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulF

I have yet to find a screen that puts my head out of the windflow. The taller screens like the ultra just end up raising the wind flow to my helmet and cause noise and turbulence. I am moving back to the triumph touring screen. Lower wind flow that hits about mid chest, but it keeps my head in clear air. Best solution for me so far.

I feel the same way. I originally though I was going to get an aftermarket screen because I was getting a good bit of helmet noise, but I fitted Genmar risers and that put my helmet into clean air. The screen would have to a solid 18" taller than it already is to get the airflow over my helmet, which would just look goofy and add little advantage, in my mind.

This isn't a personal dig at anyone, but if I wanted to sit behind a windscreen, I'd have just gotten a Miata or something.

Werks · 02-12-2013, 01:24 PM

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Fredsprint wrote ... I would say it doesn't look a very professional product. Am I too sharp here?

Fred,

Here's a fairly long advrider (AU) 2010 thread regarding Eagle Screens. Be sure to read all of it to get the full effect

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http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607549

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PaulF wrote ... I have yet to find a screen that puts my head out of the windflow. The taller screens like the ultra just end up raising the wind flow to my helmet and cause noise and turbulence. I am moving back to the triumph touring screen. Lower wind flow that hits about mid chest, but it keeps my head in clear air. Best solution for me so far.

Agreed ! I tried living with the taller optional Triumph screen but it was very noisy and turbulent as it forced the air into my face, not above or below it.

The OEM screen pushes the air below my helmet, and leaves my head in mostly clean, and mostly quiet, air.

On my ST 1100 the OEM screen sounded like a tornado with it's turbulence. I added a 6" taller Rifle screen and the air went over my helmet leaving me in a quiet pocket of air.

I much prefer riding in a sportbike's clean air than a touring bike's air pocket. The stock screen on my Aprilia is my favorite.... even quieter than the Sprint's.

Have you considered adding a laminar lip or MRA X-creen add-on variable to your stock screen ? The MRA comes with a clamp on option, so it can be removed depending on the riding conditions. The small MRA screen allows you to adjust the height and airflow to suite your needs ... or so they say !

I may try the MRA X-creen this summer on my ZX14R's small stock screen. The goal being to get the most coverage "below" my helmet, not above it.

The ZEDX14 pics below show the MRA attached to a Zero Gravity ST "tall" screen in an attempt to get out of the wind . In my opinion, a futile effort when working with a sportbike style screen.

Up .... Add this to your Grand Touring screen and you can likely sail downwind to your destination

Down ...or anywhere in between !

fredsprint · 02-12-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Werks

Fred,

Here's a fairly long advrider (AU) 2010 thread regarding Eagle Screens. Be sure to read all of it to get the full effect

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http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607549

I was wondering why you forced me to read till the end...until I read the end.

Well finally I find myself lucky compared to all I read in this thread.
Getting a correct screen from them is like playing roulette.

Tonight I tried to deflect the air just w/ my hand and got my head completely out of it. So a laminar should do the trick.

Fred

montanaman · 02-12-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fredsprint

I was wondering why you forced me to read till the end...until I read the end.

Well finally I find myself lucky compared to all I read in this thread.
Getting a correct screen from them is like playing roulette.

Tonight I tried to deflect the air just w/ my hand and got my head completely out of it. So a laminar should do the trick.

Fred

Can you post a photo of the Eagle screen you have on your GT. I am finally going to see the pre-owned Sprint GT that I may buy and it has an very dark tined after-market screen that looks much higher than stock and the dealer that is selling it does not know what type it is..

Just curious..

PaulF · 02-12-2013, 10:57 PM

Just to throw a bit more confusion into this thread, I got a chance to do a few hundred miles last month in some winter weather with the Eagle screen, and I have revised my opinion of it. I must have been slouching the last time I rode with it on the GT. This time, the wind flow hit at a comfortable level just below my neck, left my head in fairly clear air and the protection really kept me toasty. It will a keeper for a winter screen. But in the spring, definitely back to a shorter screen.

fredsprint · 02-13-2013, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by montanaman

Can you post a photo of the Eagle screen you have on your GT. I am finally going to see the pre-owned Sprint GT that I may buy and it has an very dark tined after-market screen that looks much higher than stock and the dealer that is selling it does not know what type it is..

Just curious..

PaulF posted picture of its screen in this very thread. It's the same.
In addition the first post of this thread contains pictures of the shorter version.

Fred