Confused about rear left axle nut

[pushr0d]

Originally Posted by champ87

Huh? The one in the photo above is listed at $27 from Bike Bandit.

Agreed, it seems like a rip-off price for one nut but if you're standing beside a partly re-assembled bike with an unusable old stake nut in your hand then $27 won't seem so bad compared to waiting.

Champ, the price I quoted is for the 'Triumph' fuel filter.

[roxynoodle]

Thanks for explaining it. I don't think I've ever come across one before.

Lol, yeah, the fuel filter, caliper seals and this nut are all pretty pricey. At least we have quality clutches and brakes lines to help balance that. At least that's what I keep telling myself.

[Berto]

Originally Posted by champ87

Huh? The one in the photo above is listed at $27 from Bike Bandit.

Agreed, it seems like a rip-off price for one nut but if you're standing beside a partly re-assembled bike with an unusable old stake nut in your hand then $27 won't seem so bad compared to waiting.

I agree. I bought an extra one and kept it around. I could maybe have gotten by with a second staking of the old one, but this is a Jesus nut and not worth saving a few bucks.

I'll re-use gaskets and crush washers and maybe self-locks, but not this one, thanks.

I'm rebuilding the lower suspension on my FZ1 and the manual calls for replacing self-lock nuts on the lower linkage. $12 worth of parts. What the heck...I paid for them and replaced them. This is a track bike and I don't wanna think about that stuff at 140 MPH.

[redmosquito1]

PushRod, while I agree that $27 for a nut shouldn't be considered cheap I was just saying that $27 versus $5000 for a totaled bike if it were to wobble free is cheap.

A matter of perspective I guess.

To ad to the list of expensive parts I was just at the dealer trying to convert my Brother into a Triumph guy (he's looking at a S3, and may get one when he sees the 11's in person, so beautiful) and I ordered some bolts.

Most are just to replace some ugly oxidized ones that don't really need replacing other than looks. But I need a new front caliper pad retaining pin, or what ever its called, the small screw that locates the pads up and down. I buggered the hex head the last time I installed the pads and the calipers are coming off and getting cleaned so I ordered a new bolt. They are $26. $26 for a tiny little bolt. Holy crap.

And then I was going to replace the bolts that hold the rear rotor on because they are dirty and to clean them I was going to pull them, and at that point might as well just replace and save some time. Figured they can't be more than a dollar each, nope. They were like $30 for all 4.

Only thing I could figure is that the nice young lady who is usually spot on with what I need typed it up as 4 sets of bolts and each set contains 4 bolts. Other wise how are they $7 a piece. Ridiculous.

[KitNYC]

Front rotor bolts are more like $9 apiece.

Cheers,
-Kit

[oldndumb]

Originally Posted by redmosquito1

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And then I was going to replace the bolts that hold the rear rotor on because they are dirty and to clean them I was going to pull them, and at that point might as well just replace and save some time. Figured they can't be more than a dollar each, nope. They were like $30 for all 4......

Just chuck the rear rotor bolts in a lathe and run at max speed while pressing a metal polish laden cloth onto the heads. If lightly soiled you can usually remove the crud with light pressure and retain the cad plating. If severely crudified, polishing will remove the cad and leave you with a highly polished bolt head. That may or may not be a problem depending on riding environment. It is not a problem for me, but I live in the sunshine state.

As for buggered allen head (socket head) bolts, most of the time the deformation is not very deep relative to the socket portion depth. I have rescued several by just facing the head in a lathe to remove the damaged portion.

Fasteners are no longer cheap items, and I am not talking about motorcycles only. Last week I went to my supplier to pick up a few SS socket head bolts. I was shocked that they came to a bit over $50.00. It was just a small handful of 4, 5, and 6 mm with nothing over 20 mm long. He told me that it was only going to get worse due to metal prices going up worldwide.

[redmosquito1]

$9 a bolt? Holy highway robbery.

I don't have a lathe so your solution OnD is out. It looks like its just brake grime so I'm hoping a little brake cleaner and a toothbrush will take care of it. It was just easier and cleaner to swap them out.

Again no machine tools so I can't mill the head of the bolt. I do suspect it is only buggered up near the top of the bolt because I was using a round tip allen key to tighten it. I won't be using that again to torque it down that is for sure. Lesson learned.

[champ87]

The thread is titled "Confused about rear left axle nut". Hopefully this will clear up the confusion for those wondering what a staked nut looks like:

[Berto]

Originally Posted by redmosquito1

To ad to the list of expensive parts I was just at the dealer trying to convert my Brother into a Triumph guy (he's looking at a S3, and may get one when he sees the 11's in person, so beautiful) and I ordered some bolts.

Most are just to replace some ugly oxidized ones that don't really need replacing other than looks.

I just spent more than $200 for replacement fasteners on my FZ1 project. The bolts are certainly reusuable, but with surface corrosion and some minor pitting that I just don't like. All that work to pull things apart then put it back together with crappy fasteners? I don't think so.

Researching this further, I've been looking into soda blasters. A number of vids on YouTube show how effective they are for saving corroded metal parts without damaging them. Harbor Freight has one, but I am looking at this one. It's small capacity and I don't need it much.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Speed...#ht_2763wt_861

I don't have room to build a cabinet, so I'll just use it outside, where I have shop air available.

Also, for U.S. members, I don't know how many people know about this company:

www.mcmaster.com

Industrial supplier with about everything on the planet, including fasteners in dizzying variety. I use them constantly. They're less expensive than local sources and deliver within two days.

[pushr0d]

Anyone have a Honda Hawk?

My research suggests they may use the same stake nut. If so, Honda (and BikeBandit) sells them for $12 and change.

The part fits any year Hawk (NT650), and the Honda part number is 90306-MN8-000. If anyone has a Honda Dealership of any size, they may have one on the shelf.