electrical/idiling issue

[RANEBOW25]

tried starting 2006 sprint for first time in 4 months. turned over wouldn't fire. kept trying. finally found out the battery needs to be fully charged for ecu to fire the spark plugs. charged battery again and it started up. idle for a minute or so and the malfunction light came on. Put new battery in. starts up but dies . malfun light still on. checked fuses good. went up street and back, dies whenever I let off throttle. Anything i can check before I bring it to dealer. has 6500 miles. Ran fine all last year

[champ87]

Ranebow25,

Well, I guess the good news is you have a MIL light. It might not seem like good news but at least that will point you towards the problem.

You don't say where you're located. If you're in US then, if the bike's rideable, you could take it to Autozone. They have a free checking service where they'll hook up to your bike's OBD connector and read the fault code that was stored when the MIL light came on.

All codes from the Sprint will begin with either P0 or P1. The P indicates a Powertrain fault.

P0 codes are standard OBDII codes so the guys at Autozone will be able to tell you what they mean. For example P0505 - Idle Control System Malfunction is a generic code that means the same thing whether it's Chevy, Ford or 2006 Triumph Sprint. From your description there's a good chance it will be a P0 code.

P1 codes are manufacturer defined - in this case Triumph. Autozone are unlikely to have those in their code book but if you post the code on this forum someone will tell you what it means.

It might also help if you could be more specific about the symptoms.

• Did it idle OK before the MIL light came on?

• Now that the MIL light is on does it idle when cold?

• It won't idle but does it run OK when you ride it?

• Is it still difficult to start?

• Have you put fresh gas in it? Bad gas doesn't put the MIL light on but it could affect the Air/Fuel ratio or mess with the oxygen sensor.

If your dealer is close by then that's probably the easiest solution - but not the only option.

[RANEBOW25]

Originally Posted by champ87

Ranebow25,

Well, I guess the good news is you have a MIL light. It might not seem like good news but at least that will point you towards the problem.

You don't say where you're located. If you're in US then, if the bike's rideable, you could take it to Autozone. They have a free checking service where they'll hook up to your bike's OBD connector and read the fault code that was stored when the MIL light came on.

All codes from the Sprint will begin with either P0 or P1. The P indicates a Powertrain fault.

P0 codes are standard OBDII codes so the guys at Autozone will be able to tell you what they mean. For example P0505 - Idle Control System Malfunction is a generic code that means the same thing whether it's Chevy, Ford or 2006 Triumph Sprint. From your description there's a good chance it will be a P0 code.

P1 codes are manufacturer defined - in this case Triumph. Autozone are unlikely to have those in their code book but if you post the code on this forum someone will tell you what it means.

It might also help if you could be more specific about the symptoms.

• Did it idle OK before the MIL light came on?

• Now that the MIL light is on does it idle when cold?

• It won't idle but does it run OK when you ride it?

• Is it still difficult to start?

• Have you put fresh gas in it? Bad gas doesn't put the MIL light on but it could affect the Air/Fuel ratio or mess with the oxygen sensor.

If your dealer is close by then that's probably the easiest solution - but not the only option.

It will start and idle for a minute or two before it will stall. it won't stay running so I will have to trailer it. I will borrow a scanner from someone at work. I will also get fresh gas. I'm in upstate NY. It starts right up now with a new batery. It rides fine as far as I can tell.It Idled normal before malfunction light came on. Never had starting/idle issues before

[RANEBOW25]

going to dealer next week, will let you know results...

[RexxyPup]

I would say that the mil light is from the battery having been removed, although there may be other codes in there. Your running issue will probably be due to fouled plugs from having turned it over for some time without being able to fire, and/or you may well find that the Idle air control valve is sticky.

I would change your plugs (maybe your fuel as well), take the IACV apart and clean while you are under the tank, and try again.

Rexx

[champ87]

RexxyPup,

His Sprint doesn't have an IACV. The 1050 uses a stepper motor to control engine speed at idle and when cold.

[oldndumb]

RexxyPup,

The OP said that the bike idled a minute or so before the MIL light came on.

[RexxyPup]

I sit corrected LOL. I would still aim for the plugs in the first instance.

[RANEBOW25]

well the bike went in 2 weeks ago. had appointment for last wend. they finally looked at it yesterday, Tues. it is the map sensor, which now they have to order and I won't get it back til next week. very dissapointed in the dealer. they are a newer dealer since july 09. going to be a great weekend for riding and i'll be doing yard work...