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Old 12-30-2008, 03:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down sprint 1050 headers

G'day everyone and happy new year,

Just curious to see if anyone has been able to remove the catalytic converter from the exhaust headers on a 1050 sprint?

If so was there any dramas with the o2 sensor?
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Old 12-30-2008, 03:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If so was there any dramas with the o2 sensor?
Since the catalytic converter is after the o2 sensor, it won't cause a engine light to come on, if that's what you mean.
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Old 12-30-2008, 04:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi twisted, There are no catalytic converters on the Aussie 1050's to the best of my knowledge.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought there was on the 1050's Steve but I know there is not one on the 955's.

But I have been wrong before!

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Old 12-31-2008, 12:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here's how to tell:

First, a reference photo of a 1050 header:

It's always a good idea to cary a spare...

Now a crop showing the outlet tube from the collector:

See the weld spot approx 1cm behind the collector outlet?
You will see another before the bend if you follow the tube back along that line.
There are two similar welds 180 degrees across the tube.

Those four welds suspend the precat tube in the center of the outlet tube via four ~5mm stainless steel pins. If you don't have these welds, you don't have a precat ('05/'06 anyway, newer bikes may locate a larger precat a bit farther downstream).

The precat tube is about 1cm smaller O.D. than the exit tube I.D. You can guage the precat length from the weld locations.
If one were to theoretically drill out these four pins, one may then discover that the floating precat tube is too long and rigid to exit the outlet tube bend. One may then have to grind down the outlet to collector weld and remove the outlet tube to free the precat. One would then likely have to find a stainless capable welder for reassembly and then hope the alignment is close enough for reassembly.

Once all of this was done, one may discover that:
A) The precat flows freely and little (more likely no) power is gained.
B) Most of the seat heating is due to the large efficient cat in the muffler.
C) No significant difference in sound (see A)
D) One may not care for the stench he is subjecting his fellow man to.
Due to A through D one may declare the experiment a failure and replumb to
OEM configuration.

This is all theoretical of course and I am running full plumbing.

The adjustment that I *have* found worthwhile is progressively increasing ignition timing below 10% throttle. Triumph pulls timing in that area to provide a benign throttle response. As a consequence, efficiency suffers in town and the cats runs hot because (drum roll please) that's where a significant portion of the fuel is being burned.
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It would be nice to know what year of 1050 we are dealing with. o5/06 are as CLB described with excellent photo's but the 07/08 use a larger precat that looks like a Heineken can just up and behind the right foot peg. As long as the O2 sensor is upstream you will probably be ok but in the end a healthy precat does little to restrict flow and as CLB stated really doesn't give you any gains.
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CLB,

You just never know when you need a spare set of headers, I for one keep a set in my sportpac along with my leatherman and pocket knife and duct tape.

"Be prepared and all that" eh wot!

Excellent photo's CLB, but I have come to expect no less from you

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Dave,

I picked it up used.
They're better than coffee table books as conversation starters.
...Possibly a futuristic shower head for the master bath...

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CLB,

You just never know when you need a spare set of headers, I for one keep a set in my sportpac along with my leatherman and pocket knife and duct tape.

"Be prepared and all that" eh wot!

Excellent photo's CLB, but I have come to expect no less from you

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ooh nice

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Dave,

I picked it up used.
They're better than coffee table books as conversation starters.
...Possibly a futuristic shower head for the master bath...

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That wasn't OT, was it?
Mmmm futuristic shower head wot a top idea mate!

OT what ever are you on about man, bloody marvelous idea that.
Mr Bloors boffins prolly planned for that use when they designed em, cunning crafty lot those pommy bu99ers!

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I thought there was on the 1050's Steve
Sorry I didn't think of the precat!! My Bad
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