Why Triumph are A$$holes until proven otherwise.

[Lethal1nk]

Every new or potential owner of a 2008 Speed triple in Australia beware, whilst its not confirmed officially and I doubt it will be, the 08 bike delivered is different to what is displayed in the catalogues.

The Australian 2008 edition appears to be fitted with 2006 manifold/header pipes and halfpipe system unlike what is displayed in the catalogue.

There is no heat shield at the base of the half pipe, the o2 sensor is on the halfpipe instead of the manifold pipe and the pipes appear to have been modified/retrofitted to suit the 08 model. Its untidy and unprofessional looking compared to the advertised 08 model.

This means the nice new Trident silencer and halfpipe system I bought for my 08 model doesnt fit correctly. The silencers can be attached, servicable but far from neat. The trident halfpipe is no good because my version of the 08 triple has the o2 sensor on the halfpipe so to install the aftermarket halfpipe means no o2 sensor.

Worst of all, when I confronted my dealer, he was sympathetic to my complaints but tried to pass off the whole "The display catalogue is an international catalogue and the model differentiate from country to country". That is crap, all UK and US bikes look the same to me and the catalogue and posters in the dealership dont have "international model shown local model different" statement anywhere and considering there would be lucky to be more than 200 08 triple being sold in Australia, why change the model to older equipment. When Triumph Australia was contacted by my dealer, they responded to the query on why the pipes were different by saying that they were and I should buy the arrow 3 into 1 system as it is the only decent system for the triple.

My 2 Theorys (may not be correct but the best I can think of):

- I had to wait until mid may for my bike after the initial delivery date I was promised when paying a deposit was mid March. Obviously Triumph have been trying to fill orders worldwide, Australia has been left until last, they have run out of 08 model pipes, to make delivery, they have retrofitted excess 06 model pipes to suit the 08 model.

- In an effort to squeeze more dollars out of their clients, Triumph have placed on a set of pipes that have to be replaced with only with full systems like the advertised Arrow 3 into 1 system.

Why a reputable company would want to screw over customers is beyond me because it is absolutely disgraceful. I paid $17690AUD to get my bike on the road (includes onroad costs) which is on a par with the price in other parts of the world only to find Ive got less than was advertised.

Ive had my rant, if anyone at Triumph UK reads this and has some answers please tell me because I cannot get any help in Australia.

Find attached some pics of my 08 with 06 pipes (sorry for the quality, only have mobile phone camera at the moment).

[SprintRide]

FWIW, Australia, New Zealand and one other country Triumph import to do not require catalyst's to meet emissions. So those countries don't get the much more expensive to produce header system. You have the 2005 (for the rest of the world) exhaust and should look for systems to fit that set-up. Furthermore why would Triumph give a crap weather or not your after-market system fits properly? That is the aftermarket suppliers problem not Triumphs. You might be better served by voiceing your complaint to the appropriate source. Furthermore I beleive this issue was brought up at the beginning of last season also. Petition your lawmakers and tell them that you want to conform to the B.S. emissions requirments that the rest of the world conforms to. That should solve your problem right and proper.......

Cheers

[Joemomma]

Wait...U actually WANT that ugly a$$ heatshield?

SprintRide is right...it is up to aftermarket suppliers to confirm fitment of parts they sell in your market...& it's up to U to confirm fitment if you are importing parts. There are differing versions of products for dif countries in nearly every industry.

FWIW, I like the look withOUT the heat shield WAY better. Enjoy your new ride!!

[RampageS3]

You could always call Peter at Trident and see if he will swap mid pipes with you, tell him you need one for an '05-'06 model and it should bolt right up. Maybe you'll just be out the shipping cost. Just a thought.

[welshrob]

Originally Posted by SprintRide

FWIW, Australia, New Zealand and one other country Triumph import to do not require catalyst's to meet emissions. So those countries don't get the much more expensive to produce header system. You have the 2005 (for the rest of the world) exhaust and should look for systems to fit that set-up. Furthermore why would Triumph give a crap weather or not your after-market system fits properly? That is the aftermarket suppliers problem not Triumphs. You might be better served by voiceing your complaint to the appropriate source. Furthermore I beleive this issue was brought up at the beginning of last season also. Petition your lawmakers and tell them that you want to conform to the B.S. emissions requirments that the rest of the world conforms to. That should solve your problem right and proper.......

Cheers

+1. Very well said.

We don`t have all that rubbish and we don`t have SAI, either. Why on earth anyone would want all that emissions control cr*p is beyond me. Unless they were a tree hugger who wanted an enviromentally friendly Speed Triple. The first thing most US owners do when they get the bike is pull it all off!

[Lethal1nk]

My main problem is now that ive calmed down (I can see the screen better now the steam from my ears isnt fogging it up) is that I was promised by my dealer one product, i.e the bike in the catalogue, I was assured that that was the bike I was getting, no changes for the Australian market (confirmed by Triumph Australia). So I made the appropriate purchases based on that Information. The pipes arrived two months earlier than the bike because of delays in getting the bike to Australia. Now that the bike has arrived I find my purchase of halfpipes will not fit correctly.

The responses Im getting from Triumph Australia and from my Dealer are pretty much "Your problem not ours". The simplist way to placate me would have been to be a bit more helpful in rectifying the problem (Even the suggestion that they should help with postage of the incorrect item back was met with blank refusal). Instead I got the too bad so sad attitude.

Yes its my responsibility to get the correct fitting aftermarket products, not Triumph's, but what are you meant to do when your told by Triumph and the Dealer that a product is suitable and when its not your told its not their problem. For f*cks sake, who can you rely on for information if not the manufacturer of the product.

Im definately no tree hugging hippie, why would I be getting aftermarket pipes for if I was.

Ive waited years to get a new bike and have been extremely happy with all aspects of the new triple (wanted one for 10yrs) but the service Ive got from Triumph Australia has left me pissed off.

[-xped-]

I know in the USA we have a thing called "buyer's remorse" which would be the dog's danglies if you could threaten your dealer with that! Look into it, mate!

[sonnyboy11]

Originally Posted by -xped-

I know in the USA we have a thing called "buyer's remorse" which would be the dog's danglies if you could threaten your dealer with that! Look into it, mate!

Buyer's remorse? Over getting an 05-06 exhaust config instead of the 07-08? You should be HAPPY if you get that! There are WAY more options available aftermarket for the 05-06 configs. I was very pleased when I found out my 07 had the 06 exhaust. It was good news. Not bad. Buyer's remorse- BAH!

[DADDI]

I think that you need to contact Trident and see if they can make you a half pipe with the fitting for the 02 sensor.

The other option is the MIVV GP muffler instead of the Arrow full system.
The MIVV has the 02 fitting in the half pipe so why havent Trident?
I think Trident is the problem.
But i would find out off Trident about the half pipe mod.

[Lethal1nk]

With the 08 version of the Trident halfsystem the o2 sensor isnt required in the halfpipe because the o2 sensor is located in the manifold pipe as supplied from Triumph, except on the bikes sent to Australia which have the 06 exhaust system. Im waiting to hear from peter from trident if the 06 halfpipe will work with the 08 silencers I got from him.