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Old 09-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Tried the street triple today, comparison with the speed

I tried a street triple today, demo bike at the dealer 900 km at the tacho.

Really really a good bike, very light, seat position is more forward thant the speed, narrower handlebar too. The brakes are excellent, better than the speed. The motor is incredible for a 675, much better than japs, good torque at low rpm, don't need to wait to get power but... there is no comparison with the speed. The speed is a beast with immediate and brutal power and much more torque. The front wheel is lifting 3000 rpm sooner than on the street.

I love the speed and it's worth the extra bucks, no other bike gives more fun than the speed and I owned quite a few ! (honda vtr, aprilia rsv, gsxr 1000, hayabusa...).
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Nice, As someone said in a post a while back I can get a Street Triple's worth of fun out of my Speedy But I can't get a Speedy's worth of fun out of a Street Triple ( Or words to that effect ).
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..... I can get a Street Triple's worth of fun out of my Speedy But I can't get a Speedy's worth of fun out of a Street Triple.....


....I love this sentence - and my Speedy!!
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Thumbs up Excellent ride report, Sergio.

Good objective reporting, and I cannot fault your stated reasons for preferring the S3. I share those views a good chunk of the time myself. If those are your primary criteria, then you've made the right choice of mount for yourself.

Part of the followup, though, runs toward the more generalized "better bike" variety of argument.

> I can get a Street Triple's worth of fun out of my Speedy...

I'm not so sure, because we don't yet know what a "Street Triple's worth of fun" really means. It's not going to be exactly the same as what a Speedy's worth of fun is, and it's not intended to be; nor is it a question of quantity of fun, but of what kind.

The Speed Triple is a great bike--I know it is from personal experience. That's exactly why I don't believe comparisons between it and any smaller bike can really be too meaningful, because the S3 is unique. And so, apparently, is the Street from what reviewers are saying about it. If two things are unique (meaning, one of a kind) then they must also be different in enough crucial ways that head-to-head "mine's better than yours" comparisons are just two people talking at cross-purposes.

There is the other side of the coin, whether everyone believes it or not: some kinds of fun are experienced better on lighter platforms! I was just reminded of that in a big way a few minutes ago by my neighbor's 305cc Honda scrambler, which he's gotten out and is working on for the first time in 30 years. Even with the clutch plates halfway glued together and a fraction of the displacement any of us are accustomed to, it's still loads of fun! He's the current owner of my former Rocket III, so he's in a position to appreciate the differences. Which leads to another way of looking at it: While you can scrape pegs, wheelie, and do all kinds of things on a Rocket III that you can do on the Speed Triple, that still doesn't mean you're doing them as easily or even as precisely as the S3 does them. They're best suited for different kinds of fun, not different quantities thereof.

Light has its own joys, and I'm looking forward to exploring the Street in-depth for whatever it turns out to be on its own terms--not what its big brother is, because I already know about that.

Variety is one of the things that make the world go around. Ride what you like, but keep an open mind that others are enjoying their choice just as much as you're enjoying yours. Their reasons may be different, but just as valid.
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Totally agree with you that's why I have a speed triple and a bonneville, they are so different that it's a different kind of fun.

The nice thing is every morning when I am in the garage to go to work, I ask myself which one will I take today.
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I havet he speed triple and a Bonneville america. I used to love my 1.5 hour cruise to work on either. But now I work for myself and am in a truck all day. I miss riding everyday, rain or shine.
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The seat is MORE forward than Speedy? I'd have to wear a cup!
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The seat is MORE forward than Speedy? I'd have to wear a cup!
Are you boasting or complaining

Seriously with the Speedy, you need to sit yourself back with your butt into the rise of the seat to be comfortable. I don't know about the Street seat though.

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> Are you boasting or complaining

The two are not mutually exclusive.
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The seat is MORE forward than Speedy? I'd have to wear a cup!
Sorry my english is not that good. What I wanted to say is that the handlebar is lower and your riding position is slightly more on the wrists.
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