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Old 04-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Started out with 7 miles on the odometer this morning... I'm sure the mechanics had fun with the first ride of this bikes life...

Put just over 120 miles on the bike today... and yes breaking it in somewhere between what the manual says and a quote I picked up on the forum... "ride it like you stole it"

What I have noticed with my first day with the speed3

My wrists and arms are killing me from the lean angle.. I'm sure I'll get used to it... has anyone tried longer risers??? Did you like them???

sometimes the ignition it doesn't want to turn... pull the key out an put it back in ((yes same direction))) then it works...

Clutch... I hope it gets better with time...

1st is a big clunk
2nd big clunk
3rd-6th good

Neutral easy to find... but about 5 times during the day when I pulled in the clutch... coming to a stop sign and was pushing down to get to first..... problem was it stopped and acted like it was in first but was actually in 3rd... several times at stop signs I would have to let the clutch out a little to get it into 1st from 2nd or 3rd... I'm hoping it just a clutch or cable adjustment... I hope...

Need to read the manual again but it would be nice to have a fuel gauge... I know it has something which shows fuel... but easy to read gauge would be great...

****I'm shutting off the shift light***** Hate them....

Would be nice to see what gear you are in.... go ahead forum and trash me for saying this but just my opinion.

Mirrors suck and the suck some more...

Still trying to figure out why the front brake is so much more powerful than the rear brake...

Seat was good... not great but good...

Sound was awesome...
Looks from cagers and other bikers.... cool
Roll on power awesome....
Yes, I rode a nice 1st and 2nd gear wheelie... and no I don't care if you think I shouldn't be doin them during break in.... only 1 though..

Can't wait to get more miles to I can wring this things neck!!!

2nd, 3rd are by my favorite gears to play in...

Anyone have any thoughts or comments please let me know if you experienced some of the same things I have noticed today...

Bar riser comments would be appreciated...

Clutch comments please...

Did I mention how great 2nd and 3rd gear are...

This bike is everything I hoped...

I'm going to go soak my wrists now!!





[ This message was edited by: CaptainMorgan on 2006-04-09 20:31 ]
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The S3 has a rear brake? Hmm, didn't know that... :-D

The clutch might need a bit of adjustment, however the gear box is "clunky". Just the way it is. It will smooth out over time... The "odd" shifting is typical for the first 2000 or so. Check your linkage too, there are some that need some work. The ball portion of the joint can be loose.

I had to change my bars. It wasn't the height for me it was the setback of the bars. Plus the vibration through the steel was killer as well. I went with a Renthal bar.

The shift lights are programmable and can be set to whatever rev limit you want. I used mine for break-in limits, now it is set to red at red-line.

No fuel gauge. Just pay attention to your miles ridden, and you'll have a good idea when you need gas. Mine averages about 120 miles or so per tank. It does have a fuel light, no big deal.

Never had an issue with the seat personally, it does form a bit with some seat time.
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My wrists and arms are killing me from the lean angle.. I'm sure I'll get used to it... has anyone tried longer risers??? Did you like them???
You'll get used to it. This is by far the most comfortable bike for long rides I've ever owned. I can ride it all day and never get tired. Of course, you being taller than me probably means it's a bit more leaned over for you. Just think what it would be like with clipons!

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sometimes the ignition it doesn't want to turn... pull the key out an put it back in ((yes same direction))) then it works...
This will get better with use. Try inserting the key the other way and see if it helps.

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Clutch... I hope it gets better with time...

1st is a big clunk
2nd big clunk
3rd-6th good

Neutral easy to find... but about 5 times during the day when I pulled in the clutch... coming to a stop sign and was pushing down to get to first..... problem was it stopped and acted like it was in first but was actually in 3rd... several times at stop signs I would have to let the clutch out a little to get it into 1st from 2nd or 3rd... I'm hoping it just a clutch or cable adjustment... I hope...
This is not a clutch issue. Triumphs are not known for their smooth shifting transmissions. They're a bit clunky, but nowhere near as bad as, say, a BMW. The good news is they get considerably better with time. You'll notice improvement after you change out the brake-in oil, and more improvement after 5000 miles or so.

Shift with authority, and pay attention to what gear you are in.

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Need to read the manual again but it would be nice to have a fuel gauge... I know it has something which shows fuel... but easy to read gauge would be great...
The low fuel light is obvious as a bright pink polar bear when it comes on. It's the bottom light on your left. It comes on when you are down to about 1 gallon in the tank, or, at about 110 miles + or - YMMV. Yes, an actual fuel guage would be nice but that's for touring bikes.

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****I'm shutting off the shift light***** Hate them....
Yup, it's very annoying where the factory sets them during brake-in. You can disable them completely, but it is nice to have them set at about 9500 RPM where you should be shifting for maximum power. They're not so obvious there, because you won't need to be shifting that high most of the time. There, it's more like a warning that redline is coming.
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Would be nice to see what gear you are in.... go ahead forum and trash me for saying this but just my opinion.
No kidding. Supposedly the 675 instrument cluster does this, but very few bikes offer this from the factory. Nobody is going to trash you for that!

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Mirrors suck and the suck some more...
Duh. And Duh some more.

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Still trying to figure out why the front brake is so much more powerful than the rear brake...
Forget about your back brake. This is a sportbike. 90% of your breaking force on any bike is on the front brakes and that's what you should be using. That's why there are two huge disks on the front, and only one tiny one on the back. It's a bad habit to get into, using your back brake very much. Back brakes are for holding yourself on a hill, and for cruisers and customs who don't care about good brakes.

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Seat was good... not great but good...
Opinions differ. I find the seat very comfortable.

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2nd, 3rd are by my favorite gears to play in...
3rd gear is the magic gear: 15 to 100 MPH and not a shift. Fun all the way. There's not another bike on the planet that can say that.
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thank you for the quick reply.... Riding a Harley for seven years and I always used the back brake... need to freshen up on my sportbike riding.... front brake use it all the time???? 90% plus any thoughts on braking techniques would be helpful.

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Use the front brake only if you want to stop. The rear brake is for stabilizing the bike
in slow turns and to keep it from falling over when you brake real hard with the front brake. Seriously, you can ride w/o the rear brake most of the time-do not depend on it to stop you from speed!!!
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I never use the rear brake in the twisties, unless I am stopping or something. I only use it in town at stop lights and for holding on hills etc. Everyone has their own thing with regard to the rear brake thing. Generally, I use engine braking when riding on the open road, keeping in mind a smooth, solid riding style. I tend to ride at a pace that I can maintain at all times (on mountain roads) with an occasional crank on a straight. I prefer to ride corners harder and slack off on straights as you are more likely to get nabbed by the gestapo in the straights.

The track is a totally different story, most, if not all, braking is done with the front only. Downshifting is also something that is a critical skill to get down. The S3 is a kinder-gentler bike due to it's torque band, one can get away with wrong gear choices much more forgivingly on the S3. BUT, this bike has the potential to bite, and bite hard. The torque is your friend, but also your potential downfall... Grab too much throttle (easy to do on this) and BANG...

CaptainMorgan... If you really want to learn, got out and find a school in your area for track riding and get in to it. It's a TON of fun and you learn a ton too.

Keep in mind, if you ride your S3 as you would your Harley you will get into trouble really quick...

Get into a school, it would be invaluable...
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What Geof3 said.

Also, read, read read!

Amazon.com: Proficient Motorcycling

Amazon.com: Sport Riding Techniques

Amazon.com: Total Control

Particularly Proficient Motorcycling. Many people who have ridden cruisers most of their life have developed really bad habits. Habits like rear braking. Also, a subscription to Motorcycle Consumer News is a good investment in time and money.
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Congrats on the new S3 and welcome. Listen to everyone else about the braking, you should be using your front brake to stop, actually you should be using the front brake for stopping on any bike including a Harley. The back brake should be used for controling your scoot in slow speed manuevers. The problem you will run into and I have seen this more then a few times is if you use the back brake to stop, when you actually need to stop, I mean f....ing stop quick and you hammer on the back brake, hang on because you are in for a ride with the rear tire locked up and sliding you all the way into what you where trying stop from hitting. A lot of self induced motorcycle accidents are from rear brake lock ups when in panick mode. If the person would have grabbed the front brake, baout 90% of the time they would have been able to stop with room to spare. Anyway my 2 cents.

As for bars, I switched to pro tapers and they are easier on the wrist, I am sure renthals are about the same. The seat will get better, the shifting will improve with time also. Its a fun bike, you'll enjoy it. I too just came off a HD so I know where you are coming from, this is a totally different ride. I seem to smile more on this thing.

Take care and ride safe. Oh yeah......FRONT BRAKE BROTHER, USE IT................
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Congratulations on your new sweet ride!

Try to use the front brake as much as you can, and both brakes during an emergency stop.

The tranny will get a lot smoother after 1,500 miles.

You will get less achy on your wrists as you get more used to the riding position. Try to keep your wrist leveled.

Yes it is a Wheelie monster!!!

Third gear is my favorite for just about everything!

When you see the yellow fuel light come on try to find a gas station fast. I try not to go more than 20 miles on reserve. I ran out of gas once.

It is a wonderful bike. Keep an eye on your air pressure as well.



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hey Capt, I'll have to agree with everyone. I never will forget this group of Harley riders I rode with one time was freaking out because I used my front brake. I was like, what are you guys talking about, what would you use if you weren't using your front brake??? They were always using the rear brake too, I tried to explain to them about the front brake, but they just kept telling me "what if it locks up and the wheel turns?" I guess they just had no idea. But believe everyone here, get used to that front brake. Go practice in a parking a lot or something, but just be sure to try to find a clean one without oily spots or sandy/gravel areas. And yes, the S3 just keeps getting funner everytime you ride it! :-D
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