Triumphrat

Trevski · 01-03-2013, 06:20 AM

Oh man that sucks... almost all of the Old Pac is 60Km/h now and is heavily policed these days. The locals have been complaining about the bikes during the day and car hoons at night for ages. I heard a story from a punter at Pie-in-the-Sky about the local officers using unmarked soft-roaders (Nissan X-Trail) to drive below the limit and film motorcycles that overtake on double lines.

Check out page 22 of Cycle Torque

I love the road but I'm really starting to think its best avoided at the moment.

At 55Km over you're up for a court appearance too

Feel your pain there... I've had a few enforced driving breaks myself.

1peter · 01-03-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yerwolnahtan

i know that feel. its always how it goes for me. i am nice and corteous to the officer, but dont admit guilt. and they always proceed to throw the book at me. ive never gotten a warning or had a cop give me a break of any kind. oh well.

id defintely suggest lawyering up. ive learned thats the only way im getting out of stuff it seems.

Mistake 1 -They usually record everything so don't admit fault, that way if you do go to court you might have a chance, but if you admit guilt you are screwed. Mistake 2 - You should have thrown a lit match into the bushes.

ilovheros · 01-03-2013, 10:57 AM

$2200.00, are you kidding. I don't believe in running from the popo but at that price plus everything else, I think I would have tried and if they caught me I would have said I never knew they were there...Sorry, officer I have a track day planed and I was really concentrating on my turn in and lines.

kalonji · 01-03-2013, 12:39 PM

Some say if you make 'em laugh you might get off. This hasn't worked for me. My wife wears low cut shirts. That seems to work pretty well for her.

Oops! · 01-03-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Triumphforever

Are you sure you don't live in North Korea, that's insane! I thought OZ was part of the free world. Around here drug dealers get off easier than that

When I read "Australia" and "2200 dollar on the spot fine" I thought the poster had been too busy quaffing tinnies of lager, celebrating the New Year and imagined the whole episode.

Good grief! Stories like that will do wonders for the Australian Tourist industry. Maybe the Australian Cultural Attache, Sir Les Patterson could be asked to comment on this forum?

ndirienzo · 01-03-2013, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1peter

Mistake 1 -They usually record everything so don't admit fault, that way if you do go to court you might have a chance, but if you admit guilt you are screwed. Mistake 2 - You should have thrown a lit match into the bushes.

Yea, so this is highly variable. I was a cop for a year a while back, and the one thing that I can tell you is that honesty can go a long way. Cops get lied to all day long, and often times officers will cut people a break if they don't BS them. I know I would often times not cite someone if they just admitted to how fast they were going. It's really frustrating when a person says they were doing 5 over when they were clearly doing 20+ over. Anyway, there is a point at which the speed is so excessive that they're going to get a ticket regardless of what they say.

This varies with agency as well. California Highway Patrol RARELY cuts anyone a break. Local agencies tend to have a bit more discretion as their main job isn't traffic enforcement.

As far as point #2, there's little you can do to get out of a ticket if they have you on radar. A lawyer might be able to get you off on a technicality, but it would be tough. You can also get out of one if the officer doesn't show, but again, that's rare. It happens, but not often... the only way it really does is if a cop is on duty and stuck on a call at the time of the court case. In your case, a lawyer might help you get this knocked down. You're an Aussie though, so not sure how much of this applies.

Delan · 01-03-2013, 05:14 PM

It was on a Sunday.. I honestly forgot about the whole two week 'Christmas bonus' double demerit point thing.

And I admitted to speeding. No point in saying I wasn't when I fully was aware that I was. I just tried to keep it under the 30kph threshold where ever possible thought. As I said before I thought it was an 80kph stretch. He used as laser detector, so getting off on a technicality with that is far less likely than if he used radar.

I used honesty before, when I got pulled over in my car on the Hume highway near Goulburn, that worked (and also that fact that he didn't get an accurate reading at the time).

Yeah I was shocked at the price of the fine as well as the period without a license. Seems like they just put the 45kph and over fine in the same bucket of 'hoon' offenses as street racing, and burnouts.

Don't like my odds of getting off completely, but would be content if they halved the fine and halved the license suspension period. Got my court hearing on Tuesday, will definitely keep you guys posted.

kalonji · 01-03-2013, 05:27 PM

Not admitting guilt and lying are two different things. Lying and bs will admittedly not go far. I have yet to see when an admission of guilt has worked for me.

1peter · 01-03-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ndirienzo

Yea, so this is highly variable. I was a cop for a year a while back, and the one thing that I can tell you is that honesty can go a long way. Cops get lied to all day long, and often times officers will cut people a break if they don't BS them. I know I would often times not cite someone if they just admitted to how fast they were going. It's really frustrating when a person says they were doing 5 over when they were clearly doing 20+ over. Anyway, there is a point at which the speed is so excessive that they're going to get a ticket regardless of what they say.

This varies with agency as well. California Highway Patrol RARELY cuts anyone a break. Local agencies tend to have a bit more discretion as their main job isn't traffic enforcement.

As far as point #2, there's little you can do to get out of a ticket if they have you on radar. A lawyer might be able to get you off on a technicality, but it would be tough. You can also get out of one if the officer doesn't show, but again, that's rare. It happens, but not often... the only way it really does is if a cop is on duty and stuck on a call at the time of the court case. In your case, a lawyer might help you get this knocked down. You're an Aussie though, so not sure how much of this applies.

I'm really sorry you were a cop for a year, give it time and you should be ok ? I bet you were'nt an ozzie cop for a year because I have been completely well manered and honest with the federalies and it gets me knowhere !! My mother (85) went through a 60 zone which she always drives through (on her way to my sisters place) a short while after it was changed to a 50 zone, and she still got the fine, with a suggestion to have her glasses checked. She is obviusly a criminal and deserved to be fined, right ? I'm 51 years old and have never been let off for anything, no matter how petty. These days i just say, give me the fine but don't lecture me. I have noticed on some of the cop shows on telly that other countries have a lot more lenient and common sense police than we do in Ozz, especially in New Zealand, or is that just television ? You didn't comment on the match in the bushes ? Would that work ??

Night Train · 01-03-2013, 06:24 PM

I'd never run from the cops. It's wrong and on top of that, there is always retaliation when you get caught. I've seen enough chases to see that you get beat even when you get on your knees and a camera is rolling. Screw that. I don't have a record nor have I been arrested but I prefer to steer clear of the police.