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Old 11-28-2012, 04:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Its a shame the b-king looks like a bucket of smashed crabs though...
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What makes the Tuono so nice is the torque/hp from 9500rpm, where the S3 quits, to 12000 or so.
You might be missing the point of the speedy ? Just change gear and keep it in the power, it doesn't quit if you ride it how it was tuned. If you are chasing a Tuono down a long straight, the Tuono will come out on top but, who cares ? Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Try the same thing in the hills/twistys against the speedy and see if the 9500 - 12000rpm range does you any good.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:59 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I guess first you would have to define what 'better torque curve' means. To me, there aren't many bikes around that have a 'more rewarding' torque curve than does my 955i; but then I'm an olde phart with no pretentions of going all that fast - unless there are curves to be negotiated.

In that realm the mid-range 'fatness' allows one to go quickly without having to tap dance on the dang shifter. Having owned more than a few bikes, including Italian V-twins and Japanese V-4's, I can say with confidence that none of them was as much pure fun to ride in the twisties as is my S3.

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Old 11-28-2012, 07:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You might be missing the point of the speedy ? Just change gear and keep it in the power, it doesn't quit if you ride it how it was tuned. If you are chasing a Tuono down a long straight, the Tuono will come out on top but, who cares ? Anyone can go fast in a straight line. Try the same thing in the hills/twistys against the speedy and see if the 9500 - 12000rpm range does you any good.
Nope, not missing the point at all, just making a statement. Are telling me then that it is harder to keep a Tuono between 9000 and 12000 rpm in the twisties than it is keeping a S3 between 6000 and 9000? It's all about gearing, those gears are there to enable you to keep the vehicle in the power range whether that's between 6-7k or 9 and 12k is irrelevant. I'm sure the S3 may be better than the Tuono in the twistes, I've never rode a Tuono so I have no idea, but what you do in the twisties has more to do with lightness as well, not just power. I bet your S3 may have trouble keeping up with my striple in the twistes, yet it doesn't have neither the HP or torque of the S3. My point is only that there are many variables that makes a bike behave a certain way and make it more or less appealing to people. Is there a better torque curve on a bike than that of the S3? That was the question. Don't know that there is but I just offered up a reason why some like the Tuono.
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The thing is, the S3 has such a flat torque curve that you don't even have to have it between 6-9000rpm. It delivers great power from 4000rpm on (maybe less) so, I suppose i am saying that it is easier to keep in the power than the Tuono, the S3 pulls from just about anywhere. I agree with what Foothillrider said - quote - Having owned more than a few bikes, including Italian V-twins and Japanese V-4's, I can say with confidence that none of them was as much pure fun to ride in the twisties as is my S3.

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I can say with confidence that none of them was as much pure fun to ride in the twisties as is my S3.
I don't doubt it!
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I was looking at my torque curve today and it is flat as Twiggy
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:20 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Ive owned a Bking and the S3 back to back as well. The S3 is diappointing in its power, and its delivery compared to the buttery smooth application in the BKing. Its buttery, has an amazingly smooth transmission and delivers nearly 100 ft/lb in a very flat curve. They both have thier attributes, but the S3 isnt a Bking.
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So, are you saying that when you are in the twisties you can hold the throttle wide open on the S3 while you are cranked over with the pegs scraping on the ground and, that it is just not enough power for you ?? In which case, you are my new hero. Or, are you saying that you are dissapointed because you can't go as fast in a straight line ?? in which case, who cares ?? I've owned bikes with a lot more power than the speedie but none of that means anything if you can't use the power where it matters. I'm just saying, it's not all about power, it's about how the package comes together. And anyway, all that buttery smooth stuff sounds like you might as well own a BMW and, like someone said earlier, the Bking looks like a bucket of smashed crabs. So there !! I get very defensive of my Speedie.

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This is a thread about torque, not riding. A Ninja 250 could hang with almost any bike in the twisties, that isn't the point. The S3 is just another bike, one of hundreds, they all lack something, and have something to offer. No need to get emotional, its just a bike.

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