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Old 11-21-2012, 11:50 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Received mine today (Street Triple). I put it together and I am some what disappointed so far. I am not saying it is difficult to put together, but it is a little bit of a pain doing it by yourself. ....
I have a Striple too so am really interested in your feedback first hand. Do let us know more please.
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Old 11-22-2012, 02:23 AM   #112 (permalink)
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I have the S3 so obviously a bit different than your Striple, Creative:

- on the S3 the swing-arm pivot is slightly forward of the upper mount, whereas on yours is other way around.

So without seeing it hard to advise directly.
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... At the highest position it is still about an inch or more lower than the adaptor thats fitted to the bike.....
It would be really helpful if you can post a picture of the current set-up of the plate mounted on the stand.

But there is something clearly wrong there: which hole position was recommended?
note the numbering scheme of the holes per the assembly instructions - the scheme is an odd sequence, so be sure you get the right one

1 x 5 x 8
x 3 x 6 x
2 x 4 x 7

So you're saying the plate can not be moved up any further within the slot - if the bolt is towards the top of the slot, then simply move plate up
- do not tighten the nyloc nuts on the horizontal adjust at this point.
I suspect this might be the problem - having those tightened immediately means you cannot adjust the height and that would also impact the final angle when the bike is raised.
If the plate is all the way up, so the pinch bolt is at the bottom of the adjuster slot, then move up to a higher row on the stand mounting plate
If already bolted in top row (1, 5 or 8) and the pinch bolt is at the very top of the slot, then that would indeed indicate it is too low and cannot be adjusted lower.

So try this;
Slightly loosen the nyloc nuts so they are not clamping down those adjuster-rod mounting blocks to the plate;
Again - this blocks must be able to swivel or you will not be able to properly set the vertical height of the plate;
set the recommended length of rod per the supplied sheet;
Hold bike exactly vertical;
Measure height to center of the upper mount on bike, then put bike back on side-stand;
Select the recommended fitment hole per the supplied sheet and install the main clamp bolt;
adjust the plate vertically in the slot such that the center of top pin is exactly at same height as measured on bike and lightly pinch the bolt;
(At this point with things loose, you should see as you raise/lower the plate in the slot, that it will change the angle relationship between the pins
- the fact that it is too high is why the angle relationship between pins is incorrect, and why it is so unbalanced positionally once its raised)
Hold bike vertical and present the stand to the bike and note if you have the height correct, or requires adjustment - adjust as necessary.
Tighten down pinch bolt then tighten the nylocs.*
Bring stand back to bike and raise per your previous procedure - engage top, let it rotate the bottom into place and push fully home, insert safety pin and raise bike.
See how angle now appears:
If rear is still too high, you need to adjust rod length.
(I'm too tired right now to visualize which way - lengthen or shorten, but it will be obvious as you look at it)
Remember to loosen the pinch bolt and the two nylocs before you adjust the span of the adjuster rod, then reset the height of the plate to recenter the upper mount once again.

Hopefully that will work for you.

* Tightening the nylocs is probably not strictly necessary - only if you intend to remove the plate (if you have multiple bikes/adapters for example) does that make it such that when you unbolt it, you can position it back automatically as the pinch bolt will only fix to one position in the slot. But it does ensure that everything stays in reference.

Maybe this crude drawing will help to illustrate the relationship between the three fixed points of the rod-blocks and the pinch-bolt.


Last edited by DEcosse; 11-23-2012 at 12:15 PM. Reason: Had the original context backwards - recognized after fact that stand was lower than the adapter socket
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:49 AM   #113 (permalink)
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like i said earlier in this thread, anybody who wants to buy me one of these is more than welcome to
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:12 PM   #114 (permalink)
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and you lads give credit, kudos, and thanks to DEcosse for not only putting this GB together; but for all the good advice, pics, and tutorials.

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Old 11-23-2012, 07:30 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Here are the pics. I will try the suggestions Ken made to me hopefully tomorrow. Thanks again for the help.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:15 PM   #116 (permalink)
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It looks from pic like there is no way to get the top pin any higher
It might be best to go back to the original recommended hole and the length of the rod set per instruction to set the angle of the plate correctly;
then use the handle to raise the stand initially to correct height for initial engagement rather than tilting the bike down to meet the pin?
Then re-adjust angle if necessary to get the tilt correct.

But if you leave in current hole, to get fore-aft tilt to be more balanced, if it is currently nose down, adjust the angle of plate in this direction:

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Old 11-24-2012, 07:30 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Is anyone else having a problem with installing the adapter onto the bike? The nut is a 14mm which I have a socket for but the socket is too large to fit inside of the adapter to tighten down the engine mounting bolt? Is there a special socket needed to do this?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:36 AM   #118 (permalink)
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Does anyone know what the Factory Torque Spec(Street) is for the rear engine mount bolt nut? Should the bike be on its side stand or in an upright position when removing the engine mount bolt? And does anything need to be supported while removing the bolt?
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:27 AM   #119 (permalink)
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Does anyone know what the Factory Torque Spec(Street) is for the rear engine mount bolt nut?
Did you get a socket to fit?
I believe (at least per the 675 Daytona manual) that should be 48Nm (~35 ft-lb)
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:41 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Re the Street Triple set-up:

This is the reply from Motomfg regarding initial set-up/alignment:

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... need to lower the handle so that the plate will raise up so the pins align.

The pivoting action required to align both pins and lift the bike level is something we have struggled to relay to the customer from the beginning. If the front is low the distance on the horizontal adjustment rod needs to be shortened. I suggest doing this about 1/16" at a time. Some bikes need more adjustment than others. It does take a little bit of practice to get the stand to slide on like the one in our video but once you figure out how the bike needs to be positioned and how the stand needs to be positioned it becomes very easy...
So at least on the Street, you will have to operate the handle to bring the top pin up to initial engagement before operating further to rotate the bottom one into position before pushing fully home. It will not be possible to raise the lift plate and pins high enough with installation alone, to have the pins align without raising the stand partially with the lever. So I would suggest starting with the recommended mounting hole and adjuster rod length, assemble and test for horizontal 'tilt' when raised.
Then it's going to be case of practicing technique.
One of those things where a more detailed video might be of valuable assistance - it's hard to relay descriptively alone.

Note per my previous comments re my own set-up, we have a little more leeway on the Speed Triple for set-up configuration.
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