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Geof3 · 12-20-2005

Quote:

On 2005-12-20 12:35, flatspins wrote:
What am I supposed to have meant? that first link took me to a rap song called nobody smiling it is in the style refered to commonly as "gangsta" rap. once someone posted the link to the correct song I did not care for it, I stated that it was a SUBJECTIVE TASTE ISSUE I have no problem if you like that it's not for me . take a pill dude outbursts and accusations make you look like a fool.

Flatspins is right on... The "issues" go both ways. If a culture has "named" a music type, or a stereotypical look has been made to represent a certain lifestyle, to call it what it is, is not out of line or offensive. If you look like a duck, act like a duck, you're a duck. Race or creed has NOTHING to do with it. If one is so sensitive to be offended by a person making a subjective observation of a certain style, perhaps the offended one needs to look at his or her intentions and personal predjudices... :hammer:

Personally, I've never liked her music, not my style... hip-hip, rap, R&B however one chooses to classify it. I personally like certain artists in all ranges of music. I also think the VID is totally cheesy. But hey that is my opinion. At least the vid has some talented dancers that look good, and a cool bike peppered here and there...

nyburner · 12-20-2005

old guys talking about young music = funny.

random fact: aaliyah had a lazy eye. so did biggie smalls.

s3hooligan · 12-20-2005

It's an old video but I remember seeing it when it came out 3/4 years ago.

[ This message was edited by: s3hooligan on 2005-12-20 16:07 ]

crashmasterd · 12-20-2005

Alright, if I hear one more 35+ year old guy on this forum (which is about 80% of us if I remember rightly) use any words like bling, or gangsta, I am personally going to show up at their front door with a teaspoon for the lobotomy.

Anybody ever see the movie "Ghost Dog"? If not, do so. Watch for the old loser Italian Mafia guy who is into Hip-hop. Hysterical!

My personal opinion: Hip-hop and Rap can legitimately be considered an art form. However, most of this art form can only loosely be considered "Music" in the traditional western sense. It bores me with it's sameness of rhythm and total lack of musical originality. But what can you expect where sampling is the mainstay of an art form.

durty · 12-20-2005

Boy I wish the motor in my trip sounded like that !!!!!!!

roadkill · 12-20-2005

Can someone get some high quality stills from that video featuring the bike?

kuhlka · 12-20-2005

"with it's sameness of rhythm and total lack of musical originality"

LOL, yeah, and about 99% of the music out there, of all genres is as unique as the rest of it.

If you want something tricky, check out these artists;

Dieselboy (try and wrap your head around these beats)

Jurassic 5 (old-school style MCs with REAL skills on the mic. It helps that they're not all about bein' gangsta like most of the fakes and losers who are big nowadays)

Aphex Twin (man I love the Rubber Johnny video)

Benny Benassi (repetitive, but very sexy DNB)

Chemical Brothers (cmon, they're English AND make some of the best big beat techno/electronica out there)

Roni Size (supersick manipulated beats with a hiphop edge)

Soul Coughing (older twisted alternative)

Photek (heavy techno/industrial bass, suitable theme music for my 300hp/300tq WRX STI, will mod to 500+ eventually)

For the hardcore punker at heart you can try any of the following REAL punk bands (that pansy-ass bubblegum pop ***** those emo freaks are putting out is just depressing).

Anti-Flag
Bouncing Souls
Dropkick Murphys
Flogging Molly
Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Minor Threat
Misfits
NOFX
Operation Ivy
Ramones
Rancid
Rise Against
Sum41 (whilst they have the attitude and sound, I question how genuine they are)
System of a Down
The Clash (of course)
Dead Milkmen
Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls

There are quite a few more, but those are my core punk bands.

PragB · 12-20-2005

Well, it's pretty strange cause the way I see it, if you take what I said as a personal attack, maybe it's your guilt shining through... cause anyone that it doesn't apply to, would totally understand where I'm coming from and what I mean... Don't blame me that you don't just have the sack to admit your "intentions and personal predjudices"

And naw, I think I'm just fine ignoring the neighbors I already have, I don't need more people to roll my eyes at...

words of wisdom...

dont judge a "duck" by the color of it's fur

and

don't judge a "duck", until you've walked a mile in a "ducks" shoes

Geof3 · 12-21-2005

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On 2005-12-20 21:59, PragB wrote:
Well, it's pretty strange cause the way I see it, if you take what I said as a personal attack, maybe it's your guilt shining through... cause anyone that it doesn't apply to, would totally understand where I'm coming from and what I mean... Don't blame me that you don't just have the sack to admit your "intentions and personal predjudices"

And naw, I think I'm just fine ignoring the neighbors I already have, I don't need more people to roll my eyes at...

words of wisdom...

dont judge a "duck" by the color of it's fur

and

don't judge a "duck", until you've walked a mile in a "ducks" shoes

Wow dude... you do have some issues eh? This post wasn't even close to speaking to you it was intended for rudebwoy85 and the comments he made and continued... A little quick on the draw eh? Flatspins was also addressing him... are you the same person?

Get off your high horse... it is too bad this thread had to get into this type of BS. I really thought that maybe this forum was void of little, oversensitive people... no such luck...

crashmasterd · 12-21-2005

kuhlka, you make me feel old.

At least I know who "The Clash" and "The Ramones" are. :hammer:

I'm decidedly old school. I studied Jazz and to a certain extent classical in College. I played trombone for ten years or so, hardly a "Punk" instrument. (Emo? Maybe. Could be considered "metal" I suppose. :razz: )

What fascinates me is the Jazz revival in Japan and other places. There's really good stuff being produced there, and even some here in the states. Check out Satoko Fujii or Yoko Kanno.

I see this as steps towards thoughtful music rather than thump thump rap or screaming punk three chord vocal abuse. And don't get me started on "Indie" music. Blech. Mostly sounds like a 14 year old composing with GarageBand with lyrics written in their creative writing class.

Other than that, I like a little bit of everything. Old style George Clinton and Funkadelic, Dire Straits, some old and/or new blues, John Coltrain, Charlie Parker, Gerry Mulligan, JJ Johnson or even Benny Goodman and the like.

Lately I've been grooving with Jake Shimabukuro, a dude who plays ukulele like it is an electric guitar. He plays rifs like Stevie Ray Vaugh and Eddie Van-Halen but on ukulele! Weird and wonderful.

I'm also kind of taken with this strange chick, Shivaree, although I think her first album was better than subsequent efforts.

And speaking of strange chicks: Emily Autumn

Finally there is BOA Which I was turned on to some time ago because the were featured in Serial Experiments: Lain (Strange and wondeful, if you are in to the anime thing) and then enjoyed in their own right.

Sorry, this just when on and on tonight.