Triumphrat

Stlakid · 11-28-2005

You have an '06. Triumph has apparently FINALLY changed a few things on the bike. The new master cylinder is now a 5/8" model and they are most likely coming from the factory with the improved seals and the approved caliper lube is applied also.

wills · 11-28-2005

This problem is also on my Sprint, but not the S4. My Vmax is very firm from the start, but does not stop like the Sprint, so I will take the Sprint brake over the VMax with short lever travel. I think I will try placing a spacer between the lever and master cylinder piston, it seems as if it just needs to be tighter to get the faster initial bite. What the hell it's a cheap attempt so why not.

SprinklerHead · 11-28-2005

Geof3

I brake with two fingers, always have. When I have the brake lever hitting my other two fingers, I consider that excessive travel. That's while riding, not while sitting still.

buzlin · 11-28-2005

Some have issues, some don't, some care, some don't, no argument there.

In my opinion, not being able to use 2 of 4 lever settings without having the lever hit your fingers or bar under "normal" braking, and having the brake feel get softer (increased lever travel) over very short periods of time is not acceptable.

I love my bike, glad I bought it, have other "issues" with it. I accept that the small master cylinder means more initial travel and softer overall feel. But changing feel over time isn't a good thing.

Geof3 · 11-28-2005

Quote:

On 2005-11-28 16:52, SprinklerHead wrote:
Geof3

I brake with two fingers, always have. When I have the brake lever hitting my other two fingers, I consider that excessive travel. That's while riding, not while sitting still.

That's silly, do you really think Triumph cares about your riding style? I learned four on the track and occasionally use two, If I need to break REALLY hard two doesn't do it. Four is not an issue.

So, if the problem is all about a riding style, then good luck getting any love from Triumph. There is a HUGE thread discussing this ad-nuasium over on t595. The 5/8 MC is a quicky "fix" at best.

Anyway... things are the way the are, until my bike quits stopping when I want it too, I'm good to go.

I agree that if the problem is progressively worsening than it IS a problem... But that would indicate a bad master or other bleeding/air issue... the calipers can only go so far. Somewhere the pressure is being lost...

Good luck ya all!!

[ This message was edited by: Geof3 on 2005-11-28 18:27 ]

kuhlka · 11-28-2005

Lol, as though you need 4 fingers on the lever to do a HARD stop...

I regularly stoppie the bike using two fingers. I don't think you can stop much harder than that.

Geof3 · 11-28-2005

Precisely my point... :upthumb:

Stlakid · 11-29-2005

Quote:

I think I will try placing a spacer between the lever and master cylinder piston, it seems as if it just needs to be tighter to get the faster initial bite. What the hell it's a cheap attempt so why not.

Not a good idea! The reason is that it will keep the master cylinder partially depressed all the time. There is an orifice that is 'open' when the master cylinder returns fully, this allows fresh fluid to enter into the system for the next time the brakes are depressed. You would defeat this recirculation process by doing this 'FIX'.

sailfish14 · 11-29-2005

My problem with the brakes is the initial travel of the lever before the brakes work. I don’t believe that mine have anything to do with bleeding. There are times when I get on the bike after not riding for a few days and the brake lever comes back to the bar while pulling out of the driveway and the bike hardly stops from 10mph or less. The brakes will start to work better after 5 or 6 stops. I would not consider this kind of “Brake Feel” a benefit to me. The brakes other than that do stop well. I have gotten in the habit of pulling the brake lever several times before I leave the house. I really didn’t expect this from “high end braking components” I Have been told that my bike should be done today. We will see if they fix the problem or not

kuhlka · 11-29-2005

Well, if you own an 05, get the rebuild kit done to your bike so your brakes can work great.

I guess Triumph will never admit there is a mush problem with the previous models also so we'll just be stuck trying to do the rebuilds and greasing ourselves.