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Old 08-29-2010, 11:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Removing the gas tank cap.

So I've ran into a problem where I can't open my gas tank cap, the key has a hard time going in and when I finally get it in there I can't turn it to open it up. I haven't been riding for the past month or so and when I started up this week again after using up the gas I had, when I stopped by a gas station I couldn't get it open. At first I couldn't even get the key in all the way, but after numerous tries it finally went in, now I just can't get it to turn. So I figured I'd try taking the cap off and see if I can clean it/take it apart see what's wrong. I unscrewed the six screws surrounding the cap but then it still wouldn't budge. I was wondering if anyone here has successfully removed the cap and can shed some light on what I have to do. Are there more screws somewhere or is it just a really tight seal and I have to use some force. I rather ask before I try to force it. I'd go to a dealer but the closest one is like 100 miles away and I have about 20-30 miles of gas left, so if possible I'd like to resolve this myself. If anyone has any tips or info it would be great appreciated.
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-Also to get any confusion out of the way this is for my 2007 Speed Triple 1050.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly, there are no more screws than the ones you see on top. The problem is probably the little clip that turning the key releases to allow the cap to open. Not sure what you can do to get it off. I'd first try spraying some WD40 into the key slot and see if that may loosen it up. If that doesn't work and you can't work it out after removing all the screws, I guess you could remove the tank and try to release it from the inside by removing the fuel pump assembly from the bottom of the tank.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When you say the little clip that turning the key releases to allow the cap to open, you mean the little metal bit that opens the cap and closes it normally right? But are you saying that, that little piece is preventing me from removing the whole cap as well? Because I figure that is the problem as you say, that part for some reason is stuck and thus I can't turn the key. If that is the issue then boy am I in for it. I've removed the tank a few times but removing the fuel pump assembly sounds like it could be difficult. Anyways I'm gonna go and try the WD-40 and see if that works. Thank you for tips and help, it's greatly appreciated.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You have to open the filler cap to get to the 'hidden' screws, in order to remove the entire cap assembly
If you can't get it open, you can't remove it - catch 22
Try pressing on the cap (opposite the hinge end) as you try to turn the key.
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well I love you for the WD-40 idea. That seemed to do it. I put some in, turned the key for a bit still nothing. The key itself did start to slide in smoothly though. I was desperate so I took off the tank only to see that the fuel line was not under the lid cover underneath. Sadly it's significantly more to the back and lower, even if I did take it off I don't know if I'd get to the lid cover. So at this point I tried the key again, a few more twists, it seemed to start to give way and BAM, twists open. The relief was astounding. Note that the cover did not come off when all 6 screws were taken out because there is a 7th screw only accessible once you open the lid with the key. I took that one out and was able to remove the whole thing so that I can take a look at it and potentially clean it/take it apart, do something so this won't happen again. Thanks for the help once again I really do appreciate it.
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Good news, glad you got it open. I apologize about the 7th screw, it's been a while since i've removed my fuel cap and I guess I don't remember it having a hidden screw. Glad you figured it out and didn't try to force it based on my bad advice.

I use WD40 on my door knobs at home when they get "sticky" and it works like a charm. Maybe just a bit of corrosion is the problem.

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I had a similar problem riding through the winter one year with the cap doing the same. Obviously WD40 is the best way to free a stuck lock but I would advise getting some grease or vaseline and squeeze that into the tumblers on the lock which lubricates the tumblers and protects them from siezing again.

once you have it working freely just keep on top of it and you should be fine.

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I had a similar problem riding through the winter one year with the cap doing the same. Obviously WD40 is the best way to free a stuck lock but I would advise getting some grease or vaseline and squeeze that into the tumblers on the lock which lubricates the tumblers and protects them from siezing again.

once you have it working freely just keep on top of it and you should be fine.

Russ
Dupont teflon lubricant (same as for chain lubrication) works better in both cases. It is better to clean/unstuck the tumblers, and after that to keep them lubricated without attracting gunk and clogging lock. Just put the key half way in, squirt on key side so it runs down the hole and turn few times. Once a year would do it.
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Old 08-30-2010, 04:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Watch out for bending the key ever so slightly. When I first had mine it had a copied key that was ever so slightly bent. I was stuck at a fuel stop with a key that wouldn't open the fuel cap. Got away with jiggling it that time, but I got another key made up. Also, if you don't use it regularly, sometimes the fuel seal sticks shut and needs some force to open.
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:35 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I had this issue early on with my triple, I found that running the wd40 got things lose, I then blew out the lock assy with an air nozzle and went back in with some lock assy graphite lube, cycling the key in and unlocking the tank assy many times and I have been smooth sailing on the issue ever since. Glad you got it open, I was a bit worried about mine when it happened as well.
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